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Post by quantumcomics on Mar 7, 2023 14:58:14 GMT -8
I'm pretty sure there are no teachers teaching children to go out and act like rutting pigs. Information is important and giving that information in the hope that they will listen to it is more important than trying to push a religious narrative that they're somehow "bad" if they don't wait until marriage or GOD FORBID they're one of them "degenerates" aka homosexuals. What "religious narrative" was I trying to push? Did I mention any particular God, or religious book or religion?? Or are you implying that dignity, respect and self-control are now "religious narratives" that should NOT be taught to kids in school??? Really, make up your mind!  Not at all. I know you from here and the CGC boards and from what I've seen what narrative do you push that doesn't include religion in some way? Don't be disingenuous, we're trying to have a discussion....I thought. |
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Post by quantumcomics on Mar 7, 2023 14:58:56 GMT -8
Rutting like pigs a straw man-thats not what we are talking about here. We are talking about an LGBT agenda to brainwash children. Books in the library depicting gay sex is just part of this. Yeah, you believe PizzaGate happened.  |
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Post by kav on Mar 7, 2023 14:59:53 GMT -8
Rutting like pigs a straw man-thats not what we are talking about here. We are talking about an LGBT agenda to brainwash children. Books in the library depicting gay sex is just part of this. Yeah, you believe PizzaGate happened. WTH?? More straw man? I never said a word about pizza gate. Get a grip on yourself. |
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Post by kav on Mar 7, 2023 15:01:15 GMT -8
Conservative: "I think murder is wrong"
Liberal: "Oh yeah well you believe in pizza-gate!!!
Bizarre mode of debate.
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Post by quantumcomics on Mar 7, 2023 15:31:02 GMT -8
Conservative: "I think murder is wrong" Liberal: "Oh yeah well you believe in pizza-gate!!! Bizarre mode of debate. Follow me here, I know it's not easy but try. You claim there is an LBGT agenda to "brainwash kids" which is as ridiculous as the old arguments that homosexuals are groomers and pedophiles. Aside from your odd position to speak factually to Roy about vaccines ( which he doesn't want to accept ), you seem to fall prey to all kinds of conspiracy theories. Is it that much of a stretch that you believe in the Deep State or that there is a secret cabal of Democrats who run a child sex ring and drink their blood? |
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Post by kav on Mar 7, 2023 15:34:03 GMT -8
Conservative: "I think murder is wrong" Liberal: "Oh yeah well you believe in pizza-gate!!! Bizarre mode of debate. Follow me here, I know it's not easy but try. You claim there is an LBGT agenda to "brainwash kids" which is as ridiculous as the old arguments that homosexuals are groomers and pedophiles. Aside from your odd position to speak factually to Roy about vaccines ( which he doesn't want to accept ), you seem to fall prey to all kinds of conspiracy theories. Is it that much of a stretch that you believe in the Deep State or that there is a secret cabal of Democrats who run a child sex ring and drink their blood?  |
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Post by jcjames on Mar 7, 2023 17:01:33 GMT -8
What "religious narrative" was I trying to push? Did I mention any particular God, or religious book or religion?? Or are you implying that dignity, respect and self-control are now "religious narratives" that should NOT be taught to kids in school??? Really, make up your mind! Not at all. I know you from here and the CGC boards and from what I've seen what narrative do you push that doesn't include religion in some way? Don't be disingenuous, we're trying to have a discussion....I thought. I'm not being disingenuous. I'm only asking what parts of what I posted about what I think would be good for kids to learn about sex-ed starting at 10 in school was "religious". Just because I personally have a particular religious faith does not mean every utterance of mine is a religious dogma. I posted pretty universal stuff, dignity of their own body, respect for other's bodies, self-control especially when it comes to sex when their adolescent urges outpace their cognitive development. I thought you came round to agreeing that it's not good to teach kids that masturbation and pre-marital sex were okay? I agree. I also think it's not good to just close one's eyes to that and let the kids discover years later that uncontrolled masturbation and pre-marital sex has consequences beyond their adolescent understanding. |
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Post by vintagecomics on Mar 7, 2023 18:54:59 GMT -8
No, you're only a fan of preaching and morality when it comes to your own personal politics.  Parents are SUPPOSED to teach kids about sex. It's their JOB to do so. But you are ever so slightly moving the goal posts (as most disingenuous people do) and shifting the discussion. We're not talking about learning the mechanics of sex. That's normal. We're talking about influencing kids during a transformative part of their lives, where they are role playing and they themselves are UNSURE of who they are and influencing them by planting ideas. It's like whispering into a kids ear that they are funny looking when they already feel insecure about themselves. Do you think they'll ever forget that one whisper? It will haunt them forver. They don't need sex / gender talk. They need to be protected from it and allowed to be kids Do you really think there are teachers out there "planting ideas" ( essentially grooming ) of homosexuality or transgender ideas to their 10-11 year old students? You raised the bar again champ! Absolutely. There have been teachers caught just in recent weeks by Project Veritas admitting that they were planting ideas into kids and forcing their values on them. It may not have been gender specifically, but if a teacher starts influencing children's politics, that's all the same dirty game. |
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Post by kav on Mar 7, 2023 19:02:17 GMT -8
Do you really think there are teachers out there "planting ideas" ( essentially grooming ) of homosexuality or transgender ideas to their 10-11 year old students? You raised the bar again champ! Absolutely. There have been teachers caught just in recent weeks by Project Veritas admitting that they were planting ideas into kids and forcing their values on them. It may not have been gender specifically, but if a teacher starts influencing children's politics, that's all the same dirty game. Teachers indoctrinating students happens. You gotta be a dum dum to be unaware of this stuff. |
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Post by theCapraAegagrus on Mar 8, 2023 4:25:58 GMT -8
Reproductive desires are fatalist, yes, and there's nothing wrong with that... Because we must reproduce to survive as a species.
I agree, but I was referring more to teenagers learning to control themselves rather than adults doing what sex is primarily intended for.
I think that you forgot what it was like to be a teenager. Hormones, anti-authority, etc. There will never be abstinence en masse because we're biologically designed to act in the ways that we tend to at those ages.
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Post by kav on Mar 8, 2023 7:38:42 GMT -8
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Post by jcjames on Mar 8, 2023 9:15:51 GMT -8
I agree, but I was referring more to teenagers learning to control themselves rather than adults doing what sex is primarily intended for.
I think that you forgot what it was like to be a teenager. Hormones, anti-authority, etc. There will never be abstinence en masse because we're biologically designed to act in the ways that we tend to at those ages.
No, I haven't forgot. But entire generations of "adults" have forgotten, or worse yet abandoned, the truth that they still need to teach children and adolescents higher values than the kids can easily achieve as teenagers, to teach them to strive and struggle for control of their sexual urges rather than to just surrender to them and give in to the first cute smile and tight sweater they see - otherwise they stagnate in a stunted development of adolescent-minded sexual-mentality and never mature into responsible men and women, but rather stay as adolescent-minds walking around inside grown men and women's bodies - which is where most generations are stuck now. The fatalistic notion that "some kids will always rebel so why try teaching them" and the accompanying surrender of the adults in the society to instilling dignity, respect and self-control in kids (however futile it may initially appear) is part of the reason for the social and sexual carnage that has ensued and is now glaringly apparent from the "sexual revolution" of the Boomers. On the upside, I think a growing fraction of the current generation of kids is starting to understand and see the utter failure that was the "sexual revolution", and can see the destruction of lives, even among their peers, that sexual-promiscuity, sexual-obsessions and addictions has on those who still fall for the failure called "sexual liberation". There IS a growing segment of kids today who are becoming more "morally-conservative" {cue the howls of horror from the religiophobes} regarding sexuality, who are today's "counter-cultural" kids rebelling against the sexually-permissive culture built by the older generations that grew up in the 60s to 80s. This, of course, is the counter-balance to the even more extreme sexual-obsessed kids today who are still falling for the "guys can menstruate", "if it feels good do it" and "sex-positivity" nonsense that is ubiquitous in the mainstream culture. |
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Post by quantumcomics on Mar 8, 2023 9:35:11 GMT -8
Just curious. How much teenage masturbation is acceptable? A little, none?
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Post by theCapraAegagrus on Mar 8, 2023 9:41:45 GMT -8
I think that you forgot what it was like to be a teenager. Hormones, anti-authority, etc. There will never be abstinence en masse because we're biologically designed to act in the ways that we tend to at those ages.
No, I haven't forgot. But entire generations of "adults" have forgotten, or worse yet abandoned, the truth that they still need to teach children and adolescents higher values than the kids can easily achieve as teenagers, to teach them to strive and struggle for control of their sexual urges rather than to just surrender to them and give in to the first cute smile and tight sweater they see - otherwise they stagnate in a stunted development of adolescent-minded sexual-mentality and never mature into responsible men and women, but rather stay as adolescent-minds walking around inside grown men and women's bodies - which is where most generations are stuck now. The fatalistic notion that "some kids will always rebel so why try teaching them" and the accompanying surrender of the adults in the society to instilling dignity, respect and self-control in kids (however futile it may initially appear) is part of the reason for the social and sexual carnage that has ensued and is now glaringly apparent from the "sexual revolution" of the Boomers...
I'm not saying, "don't teach them". I'm saying, "don't teach them only abstinence", because we know that lesson will never work.
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Post by jcjames on Mar 8, 2023 9:53:26 GMT -8
Just curious. How much teenage masturbation is acceptable? A little, none? That's a very odd thing to be interested in!  |
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