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Post by jcjames on Mar 6, 2023 12:38:35 GMT -8
Did you get a book that described gay oral sex or showed images of how it's done? If not, then the "education" you got back then is not relevant to what's happening today. Of course not and NO, I do not think graphic materials should be made available to children, gay, straight or whatever. Now, will you answer my question? Well, glad we all agree that book-bannings in public school CAN be a good thing and need to be done to protect children from inappropriate material. Sex-ed is an important part of adolescent health-education - but it MUST be done in a very limited and generic way since it is dealing with some of the most delicate, intimate and moral aspects of childhood growth at a period of time when they are at their most vulnerable to being confused further than adolescence already confuses them.
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Post by quantumcomics on Mar 6, 2023 12:40:47 GMT -8
What argument? You didn't answer my question and asked an unrelated one of your own which I would be happy to answer if you answer mine. Ask someone to explain what an argument is. Or you could just answer the initial question?
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Post by kav on Mar 6, 2023 12:42:00 GMT -8
Ask someone to explain what an argument is. Or you could just answer the initial question? naw
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Post by quantumcomics on Mar 6, 2023 12:44:12 GMT -8
Of course not and NO, I do not think graphic materials should be made available to children, gay, straight or whatever. Now, will you answer my question? Well, glad we all agree that book-bannings in public school CAN be a good thing and need to be done to protect children from inappropriate material. Sex-ed is an important part of adolescent health-education - but it MUST be done in a very limited and generic way since it is dealing with some of the most delicate, intimate and moral aspects of childhood growth at a period of time when they are at their most vulnerable to being confused further than adolescence already confuses them. This is where we disagree. I think if it's OK to discuss reproduction it's OK to answer questions asked about homosexuality etc without bringing your specific morality into it. FYI, that doesn't mean I think it would be a good idea for the teacher to pass out Hustler magazine or show clips from youporn.com
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Post by kav on Mar 6, 2023 12:46:06 GMT -8
Well, glad we all agree that book-bannings in public school CAN be a good thing and need to be done to protect children from inappropriate material. Sex-ed is an important part of adolescent health-education - but it MUST be done in a very limited and generic way since it is dealing with some of the most delicate, intimate and moral aspects of childhood growth at a period of time when they are at their most vulnerable to being confused further than adolescence already confuses them. This is where we disagree. I think if it's OK to discuss reproduction it's OK to answer questions asked about homosexuality etc without bringing your specific morality into it. FYI, that doesn't mean I think it would be a good idea for the teacher to pass out Hustler magazine or show clips from youporn.com If a student asked me sexuality questions I would say ask your parents about that.
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Post by quantumcomics on Mar 6, 2023 12:46:55 GMT -8
This is where we disagree. I think if it's OK to discuss reproduction it's OK to answer questions asked about homosexuality etc without bringing your specific morality into it. FYI, that doesn't mean I think it would be a good idea for the teacher to pass out Hustler magazine or show clips from youporn.com If a student asked me sexuality questions I would say ask your parents about that. Naw.
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Post by kav on Mar 6, 2023 12:51:13 GMT -8
If a student asked me sexuality questions I would say ask your parents about that. Naw. You wouldnt? Sorry to hear that and good way to get fired. That stuff is not my business. Libs tend to make stuff their business.
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Post by quantumcomics on Mar 6, 2023 12:51:49 GMT -8
You wouldnt? Sorry to hear that and good way to get fired. That stuff is not my business. Libs tend to make stuff their business. Naw.
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Post by kav on Mar 6, 2023 12:54:04 GMT -8
You wouldnt? Sorry to hear that and good way to get fired. That stuff is not my business. Libs tend to make stuff their business. Naw. Excellent rebuttal and imitation the highest form of flattery. we're done here. Ps this is why I dont argue with libs unless I'm in the mood
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Post by jcjames on Mar 6, 2023 12:59:04 GMT -8
Well, glad we all agree that book-bannings in public school CAN be a good thing and need to be done to protect children from inappropriate material. Sex-ed is an important part of adolescent health-education - but it MUST be done in a very limited and generic way since it is dealing with some of the most delicate, intimate and moral aspects of childhood growth at a period of time when they are at their most vulnerable to being confused further than adolescence already confuses them. This is where we disagree. I think if it's OK to discuss reproduction it's OK to answer questions asked about homosexuality etc without bringing your specific morality into it. FYI, that doesn't mean I think it would be a good idea for the teacher to pass out Hustler magazine or show clips from youporn.com Etcetera? Abnormal Human Sexuality is not a topic for 10 year-olds. If they ask about homosexuality, necrophilia, bestiality, "etc", you'd engage them in discussion? What if they ask about specific fetishes or autogynephilia (guys who pretend to be girls for sexual gratification) - is that fair game to engage in conversation with 10 year old kids who aren't your own? What about if they asked about gay anal sex, would you engage them and teach them "safe anal sex"? Where do you draw the line and say, "You should ask your parents about this"?
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Post by quantumcomics on Mar 6, 2023 13:06:37 GMT -8
This is where we disagree. I think if it's OK to discuss reproduction it's OK to answer questions asked about homosexuality etc without bringing your specific morality into it. FYI, that doesn't mean I think it would be a good idea for the teacher to pass out Hustler magazine or show clips from youporn.com Etcetera? Abnormal Human Sexuality is not a topic for 10 year-olds. If they ask about homosexuality, necrophilia, bestiality, "etc", you'd engage them in discussion? What if they ask about specific fetishes or autogynephilia (guys who pretend to be girls for sexual gratification) - is that fair game to engage in conversation with 10 year old kids who aren't your own? What about if they asked about gay anal sex, would you engage them and teach them "safe anal sex"? Where do you draw the line and say, "You should ask your parents about this"? Simple solution, just leave it all in the hands of the parents?
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Post by quantumcomics on Mar 6, 2023 13:08:10 GMT -8
Excellent rebuttal and imitation the highest form of flattery. we're done here. Ps this is why I dont argue with libs unless I'm in the mood It's not an argument when you refuse to answer questions or engage in sincere discussion, it's a monologue.
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Post by kav on Mar 6, 2023 13:08:47 GMT -8
This is where we disagree. I think if it's OK to discuss reproduction it's OK to answer questions asked about homosexuality etc without bringing your specific morality into it. FYI, that doesn't mean I think it would be a good idea for the teacher to pass out Hustler magazine or show clips from youporn.com Etcetera? Abnormal Human Sexuality is not a topic for 10 year-olds. If they ask about homosexuality, necrophilia, bestiality, "etc", you'd engage them in discussion? What if they ask about specific fetishes or autogynephilia (guys who pretend to be girls for sexual gratification) - is that fair game to engage in conversation with 10 year old kids who aren't your own? What about if they asked about gay anal sex, would you engage them and teach them "safe anal sex"? Where do you draw the line and say, "You should ask your parents about this"? Libs dont want parents raising their kids-they want to be the ones to raise brainwash. Soviet style.
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Post by quantumcomics on Mar 6, 2023 13:18:16 GMT -8
Are you serious with this? I must've missed it at the last meeting at Pizza Hut.
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Post by jcjames on Mar 6, 2023 14:02:12 GMT -8
Etcetera? Abnormal Human Sexuality is not a topic for 10 year-olds. If they ask about homosexuality, necrophilia, bestiality, "etc", you'd engage them in discussion? What if they ask about specific fetishes or autogynephilia (guys who pretend to be girls for sexual gratification) - is that fair game to engage in conversation with 10 year old kids who aren't your own? What about if they asked about gay anal sex, would you engage them and teach them "safe anal sex"? Where do you draw the line and say, "You should ask your parents about this"? Simple solution, just leave it all in the hands of the parents? This is just off the top of my head - what I remember and what I was taught too.... Boys and girls separated for 5th grade sex-ed: Boys: not so crudely stated as this but... 1. Boys, your body is not yours to do or treat any way you feel like. You have a dignity far beyond what you can imagine at 10 years old. You didn't create your body - it was given to you as a gift. Treat it as a gift. But your body will start to mature into men, and it will take years. You're gonna start growing pubic hair, getting erections, having emotions that are hard to control and are even sometimes confusing (maybe very confusing). Maybe even wet dreams (you'll know it when you have it). All of that is 100% normal. 2. Now's the time to start learning to control your sexual urges like you started to learn to control your anger when you were a toddler. This is the time in your life when you will begin to teach your body to obey your mind, not your mind to obey your body. You will save yourself a LIFETIME of misery if you start learning this now. Your body has a purpose above and beyond "feeling good" right now. As you get into middle school and high school, there will be more mature expectations made of you. Your body matures MUCH faster than your brain... so remember that. Don't let your body do your thinking. 3. You're growing to become a mature man, but masculinity is not all-or-nothing (and neither is femininity). Masculinity is not being "tough", it's about being responsible, competent, confident, respectful and competitive. None of those traits are exclusive to men, nor are they all found in equal measures in all men. Femininity is not about being "girly", it's being nurturing, caring, empathetic, sensitive and stable. Every guy and girl is a mix of all those traits. 3. Girls are not there for you to oogle at or treat like a sex-object for you to play with (see #2). Every girl is some father's daughter and he will beat your ass if you mess with her. Girls are in their own class right now, and are learning how to become women. You're not a "dawg" and she's not your "b*tch". Scummy losers think and talk like that. Respect is the greatest gift you can give a girl. 4. Sexual intercourse is how babies are made. There's a basic pamphlet/book about where babies come from available. If you want to have babies and are grown up, that's up to you. If you don't, (again, see #2). Some people think birth-control, like condoms or the pill are okay, others don't. Each have their reasons. Your parents were sent a message and are expecting you to go home today and ask them about your family values regarding birth-control. Don't be afraid to ask - they've been told you will go and ask them. It's an important issue. 5. You're starting to learn about being a grown up, even though you're still 10 years old. This is a journey and we're not going to throw everything about sex at you all at once because it takes years to learn. You will question a lot of things. But don't obsess. Life is a long long journey. You're not supposed to have all the answers (or even hardly any answers) at this time. Wait until after high school, and in the mean time, learn to control your body - or it will control you your whole life. 6. Enjoy being 10 - when you become mature after high school, then you'll be that for your whole life. But you'll only be like you are now for a short time more. Enjoy the freedom you have. Girls... similar but with different female development topics (breasts, periods, emotions, etc) Have at it.
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