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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 20:45:38 GMT -8
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Apr 24, 2017 21:53:37 GMT -8
Lauren is such a troublemaker.  Here's my tangential opinion on the matter: When I first learned about the Sig Series, I thought...hmmm...the difference between a 9.6 and a 9.8 is so slight that most collectors and many professional graders can't tell the difference. Yet these books travel back and forth across the country through the mail (or in cars and planes) in plastic shake chambers, are broken open, shoved into bags with holes, slapped on tables in front of artists and generally manhandled, sent in for regrading and re-encapsulation and shipped/returned back again to have the entire process repeat multiple times...yet the the vast majority retain their 9.8 status. Seemed an impossibility to me. Then I thought...hmmmm...who would benefit from this type of process...and who would lose if the process didn't yield 9.8s at this rate? You know...one of those 'follow the money' type of mental exercises? I came to a conclusion, and it's the same conclusion I arrive at today going through the same simple mental exercise.  On the issue of who's a real fan, and 'thou shalt not profit from the aforementioned fan status'...yeah right...gimme a break. How many creators would show up at these conventions JUST to commune with their fans...you know...if they didn't get to make a buck out of it? With rare exception, the creators are there to profit, and they do. So why are they so damned concerned about what happens to the property of the fans after the fans pay to have the creators sign it? It seems to me that this whole process is backasswards. The creators and their parent publishing companies should be thanking the fans, flippers, and whoever else is willing to go through the multi-level gauntlet of obtaining those expensive signatures. Aww...you don't like that someone else is making a cut? Welcome to the world of business art-boy. And while you're at it, if you're ACTUALLY worried about REAL fans, how about changing the way the process works - there's no reason you couldn't have a commercial signing process AND a fan-based signing process. Gargle. |
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Post by Stu on Apr 25, 2017 16:03:45 GMT -8
Real fans get their books signed on the inside first page and they don't get them slabbed at all  |
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Apr 25, 2017 17:44:24 GMT -8
Real fans get their books signed on the inside first page and they don't get them slabbed at all lol Like this.  |
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Post by thebrain on Apr 25, 2017 17:46:05 GMT -8
Real fans get their books signed on the inside first page and they don't get them slabbed at all You have them sign on the credit page. ...But you still don't have them slabbed.  |
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Post by Jeffro on Apr 26, 2017 4:31:53 GMT -8
Lauren is such a troublemaker. I'd still love to know what qualifies her to be an Overstreet adviser. I always enjoyed the dealer reports because they tended to have a broader perspective. A collector doesn't usually have that level of perspective. They know what they collect (and that can be valuable yes) but they don't know what they don't collect. Usually they don't anyway. That's not to say that all dealer reports are high quality or comprehensive. Some aren't. Some are pathetically short and pretty much useless. |
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Post by Jeffro on Apr 26, 2017 4:35:41 GMT -8
On the issue of who's a real fan, and 'thou shalt not profit from the aforementioned fan status'...yeah right...gimme a break. How many creators would show up at these conventions JUST to commune with their fans...you know...if they didn't get to make a buck out of it? With rare exception, the creators are there to profit, and they do. So why are they so damned concerned about what happens to the property of the fans after the fans pay to have the creators sign it? It seems to me that this whole process is backasswards. The creators and their parent publishing companies should be thanking the fans, flippers, and whoever else is willing to go through the multi-level gauntlet of obtaining those expensive signatures. Aww...you don't like that someone else is making a cut? Welcome to the world of business art-boy. And while you're at it, if you're ACTUALLY worried about REAL fans, how about changing the way the process works - there's no reason you couldn't have a commercial signing process AND a fan-based signing process. I agree. If these artists are pissed that others are making money off of their signatures and/or sketches, there are ways that they themselves can profit as well. As you said, have a commercial singing process. If a creator is annoyed about someone putting a sketch up on ebay then they do more sketches and put them on ebay themselves. |
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Post by thebrain on Apr 26, 2017 7:04:49 GMT -8
So what rally happened ?
 If you can say.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 7:48:39 GMT -8
So what rally happened ?
If you can say. I wasn't there, but I know Lauren, and suspect her version was dead on. |
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Post by thebrain on Apr 26, 2017 9:26:22 GMT -8
Thanks.
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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on Apr 28, 2017 10:25:27 GMT -8
Real fans get their books signed on the inside first page and they don't get them slabbed at all I mostly agree with this. I can see reasons popping up now and then that allow for acceptions, though. For example, Mike Royer prefers to sign only his work. I have several books that have his sig on the cover because that's all he did. Even his interior sigs are like this. Many of his Dell/Gold Key/Disney works consist of short stories, and much of his Disney work appeared at the end of the Gladstone Micky Mouse reprints, so that's where he like to sign. Sometimes he likes to sign the Kirby DPS's rather than the splash. Otherwise, I prefer them inside. I completely spaced making the request for interior sigs with a couple creators at Wizard World  , so I need to be better prepared. I'm making a stack of books I want signed, and I'll ask that each one is inscribed to me. I like the idea of letting the creator know he's signing for a fan. I read the posts regarding McFarlane not signing books that will be graded. If he attends SDCC I'll try to get a sig if I have time (after all, I will be working ), and instead of all the zillion comics he normally signs, I'll hand him {this}  . |
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Post by MetalPSI™ on Apr 30, 2017 4:00:58 GMT -8
My Kieth collection is all signed on the cover and slabbed, except for a few books.
He has an awesome artist signature and I hope the slabs hold up for 20+ years to protect my collection.
Thinking I might buy some mylars to replace the slabs one day
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Post by Prince Namor on May 13, 2017 12:45:01 GMT -8
Nothing like listening to a whore preach virtue.
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Post by slym2none on May 13, 2017 14:00:51 GMT -8
Nothing like listening to a whore preach virtue. Wait, who's the whore here? |
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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on May 13, 2017 14:18:09 GMT -8
Huh. I wonder what that was about.
Not enough to investigate, but I'm still curious.
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If you can say. 
, so I need to be better prepared. I'm making a stack of books I want signed, and I'll ask that each one is inscribed to me. I like the idea of letting the creator know he's signing for a fan. I read the posts regarding McFarlane not signing books that will be graded. If he attends SDCC I'll try to get a sig if I have time (after all, I will be working 
