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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 14:12:30 GMT -8
These people are ignorant children, "administered" by people who are also ignorant children, or company men with jobs they think they need to protect. And that's really a shame, because I was hoping for better. So, I wouldn't take anything they say seriously. Interesting reading. Kind of digging up old bones quoting a post from a year ago, but FYI That newsstand set graded out to 9.8s and this past April sold on the CBCS boards for $1,500 after being listed at $2,500 for less than 2 hours. This newsstand trend has legs. It sold on the CBCS board...? If that's the case, then one has to wonder about the effect of persistent pushing of the newsstands there. There are a handful of people...shrewbeer, or CAK, for example...who routinely talk about newsstand books and how "rare they are in high grade." I wonder if he would have had the same kind of success on eBay, assuming this transaction actually took place, and isn't a catfish, which I wouldn't put past shrewbeer for a second. People try all kinds of tricks to fool others into believing something is worth more than it is. Faking a sale...even with "real" parties involved...is done on eBay with regularity. There are sales on GPA that never happened. There's a sale for Strangers in Paradise #1, CGC 9.8, for example, for $2,000 in Feb of 2013. Never happened. That was my book that some angry git in the UK hit the BINs on...100 or more listings...in retaliation for me not accepting her beat to  comic she sent me. It's relatively easy to catfish sales, and then use those fake sales as platforms to "legitimize" higher asking prices. Not saying that's what shrewbeer did...I don't know...but I wouldn't put it past him for a second. X-Men #1 is not rare, even in newsstand, even in 9.8. Is it a lot harder to find compared to Direct X-Men #1s...? Sure. But that's like saying Lake Erie is a lot harder to find compared to the Atlantic Ocean. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 14:15:56 GMT -8
Although, Ditch put the Robin 1 2nd print newsstand right in his lap, by Ditch's posting of an eBay seller, per the Bat 457 2nd print and Robin 1 2nd print newsstand threads, on this board..... This is inaccurate. Ditch posted a link to a listing which contained the Superman #50. I deduced the potential existence of Robin #1 entirely independently, and sought it out on my own. |
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Post by copperagekids on Jul 2, 2018 15:57:47 GMT -8
Although, Ditch put the Robin 1 2nd print newsstand right in his lap, by Ditch's posting of an eBay seller, per the Bat 457 2nd print and Robin 1 2nd print newsstand threads, on this board..... This is inaccurate. Ditch posted a link to a listing which contained the Superman #50. I deduced the potential existence of Robin #1 entirely independently, and sought it out on my own. PS. Thanks to Ditch for linking that other auction in the Superman #50 thread. I saw a copy of this very book in that listing, and knew it had to be what it was.  If I was mistaken, I apologize. That qoited post of yours here, is what led me to believe that statement that I made, earlier. |
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Post by Stu on Jul 2, 2018 16:29:22 GMT -8
Interesting reading. Kind of digging up old bones quoting a post from a year ago, but FYI That newsstand set graded out to 9.8s and this past April sold on the CBCS boards for $1,500 after being listed at $2,500 for less than 2 hours. This newsstand trend has legs. It sold on the CBCS board...? fc169 said it was sold on Facebook. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 16:40:09 GMT -8
It sold on the CBCS board...? fc169 said it was sold on Facebook. Please do not attempt to interact with me. Thank you. |
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Post by Stu on Jul 2, 2018 16:43:43 GMT -8
fc169 said it was sold on Facebook. Please do not attempt to interact with me. Thank you. Tough . If you ask a question and I know the answer I will post it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 16:53:22 GMT -8
Please do not attempt to interact with me. Thank you. Tough . If you ask a question and I know the answer I will post it. Request #2. Please do not attempt to interact with me. Thank you. |
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Post by philflound on Jul 7, 2018 21:17:31 GMT -8
So has a 2nd copy of Superman 50 shown up?
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Post by steveinthecity on Jul 8, 2018 12:21:54 GMT -8
Orbit City Comics mentioned in another thread of being aware of the Superman #50 as far back as 2010. Was this ever confirmed? I suppose I could pm him as a follow up.
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Post by fc169 on Jul 10, 2018 3:57:43 GMT -8
X-Men #1 is not rare, even in newsstand, even in 9.8. Is it a lot harder to find compared to Direct X-Men #1s...? Sure. But that's like saying Lake Erie is a lot harder to find compared to the Atlantic Ocean. Not rare in 9.8? Common as Lake Erie to the Atlantic? You’ve got some brass balls or ignorance, I’m not sure which 🤔 For the past year there are a handful of collectors (that I know of, likely more) trying to put together these sets. Only the set mentioned has been put to market, and it’s the only one I know of successfully graded to 9.8. If they are as common as you claim, produce a set! |
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Post by splash on Jul 10, 2018 10:32:13 GMT -8
X-Men #1 is not rare, even in newsstand, even in 9.8. Is it a lot harder to find compared to Direct X-Men #1s...? Sure. But that's like saying Lake Erie is a lot harder to find compared to the Atlantic Ocean. Not rare in 9.8? Common as Lake Erie to the Atlantic? You’ve got some brass balls or ignorance, I’m not sure which 🤔 For the past year there are a handful of collectors (that I know of, likely more) trying to put together these sets. Only the set mentioned has been put to market, and it’s the only one I know of successfully graded to 9.8. If they are as common as you claim, produce a set!  via Imgflip Meme Generator |
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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on Jul 10, 2018 15:55:14 GMT -8
X-Men #1 is not rare, even in newsstand, even in 9.8. Is it a lot harder to find compared to Direct X-Men #1s...? Sure. But that's like saying Lake Erie is a lot harder to find compared to the Atlantic Ocean. Not rare in 9.8? Common as Lake Erie to the Atlantic? You’ve got some brass balls or ignorance, I’m not sure which 🤔 For the past year there are a handful of collectors (that I know of, likely more) trying to put together these sets. Only the set mentioned has been put to market, and it’s the only one I know of successfully graded to 9.8. If they are as common as you claim, produce a set! Perhaps no one is selling?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 17:54:57 GMT -8
X-Men #1 is not rare, even in newsstand, even in 9.8. Is it a lot harder to find compared to Direct X-Men #1s...? Sure. But that's like saying Lake Erie is a lot harder to find compared to the Atlantic Ocean. Not rare in 9.8? Common as Lake Erie to the Atlantic? You’ve got some brass balls or ignorance, I’m not sure which 🤔 Is it necessary to take shots at people to make your point? Because the CGC census does not distinguish between newsstand and Direct copies, and CBCS has no census (and may never have one, or, if they do, the numbers will be of no value, because they've already operated for 4+ years...how likely is it that they've properly recorded everything?), there's no way to know how many of the 2258 9.8 copies are on the census are newsstands, but the answer...obviously...is not "zero." What's worse is that we don't even know how those numbers represent each of the four different covers. Something for everyone to keep in mind: X-Men #1 was the highest selling comic book in history...by a lot. Marvel didn't go to the trouble and expense of printing 8 million copies, only to print a handful of newsstand copies. Yes...newsstand copies are not anywhere near as common as Direct copies. But that does not at all mean they are "rare" in ANY sense of the word. You say "for the past year there are a handful of collectors trying to put together these sets"...ok, and...? You don't explain how you're looking, or where you're looking, or what your results have been overall. A year isn't that long to look, and the only set you know of isn't a very strong claim. The problem is the same thing you'll find with all newsstands: they were sold to individuals, which is why you don't find them in clumps, as you do with store stock and speculator hordes of the time period. But that does not mean they are not out there. By all means, if you have proof of the numbers of newsstands that Marvel printed, a lot of people would be very interested in such information. Until then, all of this is speculation, since there is very little hard data to go on. And I'm more than happy to discuss with you, provided you forego the personal comments. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 17:57:10 GMT -8
Not rare in 9.8? Common as Lake Erie to the Atlantic? You’ve got some brass balls or ignorance, I’m not sure which 🤔 For the past year there are a handful of collectors (that I know of, likely more) trying to put together these sets. Only the set mentioned has been put to market, and it’s the only one I know of successfully graded to 9.8. If they are as common as you claim, produce a set! Perhaps no one is selling? This is as likely a possibility as anything. |
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Post by philflound on Oct 10, 2018 13:23:03 GMT -8
1st graded copy just showed up on the census.9.2. probably the 3rd known copy.
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