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Post by theCapraAegagrus on Feb 24, 2023 10:10:00 GMT -8
Explain why you find it ironic?
It's ironic because you're biased to believing that only 1 political party embraces hate and intolerance.
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Post by jcjames on Feb 24, 2023 10:22:22 GMT -8
Through legislation, I don't think it's the most effective or best way to reduce contraceptive use. There may come future developments which would warrant a more legislative approach though - purely hypothetical here, but, if future scientific findings indicated far longer lasting and detrimental effects of prolonged contraceptive pill use by women on the development of later children. Suppose maybe in the future it is demonstrated that longterm use of the pill increases autism, homosexuality, future suicidal ideation, bipolar or some other affliction/disorder in later children conceived after stopping the pill... legislation could be warranted. But teaching society that it has the freedom to use the pill should be countered with teaching society what exactly that means with regards to disconnecting sexual gratification between two adults with the natural and good consequence of creating children, and thus creating families. And by "teaching" I don't necessarily mean in formal public schools. More like showing through mediums of cultural and social means. Just like I wouldn't want the state to criminalize adultery or divorce, one can easily see that rampant adultery and divorce does have negative effects on society as whole as well as personal relationships. So the balance should be to not glamorize or reward adultery and divorce rather than get out the legislative ban-hammer. You make some reasonable points. But again, how do conservatives justify attempting to control the lives of others - strangers - in intimate areas such as birth control? You haven't addressed this. Do conservatives support liberty, or do they not? Liberty to own a gun, but not to take a morning after pill? It seems, at best, a double standard. I do not speak for conservatives. But I can only guess it's same way that anyone who upholds proper laws attempts to "control" what other people do. Directly and seriously causing physical harm to others is wrong. Agree? Does it then matter if the harm is being done in the public square, in a semi-public place of business, or the privacy of one's own backyard, home or bedroom? Directly and seriously harming others is wrong. Agree? The term "birth-control" covers many many things. I was focusing on abortion which was introduced in the OP (and is also used as a form of "birth-control"), and not so much on the pill or condoms etc. Although I find those also morally wrong, it is a very different thing for the state to get involved in regulating adults buying condoms or taking the pill.... though I did elaborate on that in my earlier post. ETA: Who do you think does speak for conservatives? Who speaks for moderate/independents? Who speaks for leftist liberals? Who does Zod speak for? |
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Post by quantumcomics on Feb 24, 2023 10:47:03 GMT -8
Explain why you find it ironic?
It's ironic because you're biased to believing that only 1 political party embraces hate and intolerance.
Explain to me how I'm doing that? I'm not saying the left is perfect, there is a lot I don't agree with the corporate democrats in congress...just as I don't believe all republicans embrace hate and intolerance. |
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Post by kav on Feb 24, 2023 12:01:13 GMT -8
From the liberal dictionary:
in·tol·er·ance
/inˈtäl(ə)rəns/
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noun
1.
Disagreement with me
tol·er·ance
/ˈtäl(ə)rəns/
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noun
1.
Agreeing with me
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Post by quantumcomics on Feb 24, 2023 12:55:40 GMT -8
From the liberal dictionary: in·tol·er·ance /inˈtäl(ə)rəns/ Learn to pronounce noun 1. Disagreement with me tol·er·ance /ˈtäl(ə)rəns/ Learn to pronounce noun 1. Agreeing with me Those mean libs, trying to cancel your right to hate.  |
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Post by kav on Feb 24, 2023 13:02:11 GMT -8
From the liberal dictionary: in·tol·er·ance /inˈtäl(ə)rəns/ Learn to pronounce noun 1. Disagreement with me tol·er·ance /ˈtäl(ə)rəns/ Learn to pronounce noun 1. Agreeing with me Those mean libs, trying to cancel your right to hate. From the liberal dictionary: hate /hāt/ Learn to pronounce verb Anything I disagree with |
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Post by quantumcomics on Feb 24, 2023 13:05:29 GMT -8
Those mean libs, trying to cancel your right to hate. From the liberal dictionary: hate /hāt/ Learn to pronounce verb Anything I disagree with Looks like someone is bored. Can't you go cash your liberal social security check or something? |
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Post by kav on Feb 24, 2023 13:13:07 GMT -8
From the liberal dictionary: hate /hāt/ Learn to pronounce verb Anything I disagree with Looks like someone is bored. Can't you go cash your liberal social security check or something? From the liberal dictionary: bored1 /bôrd/ Learn to pronounce adjective Engaging in something I don't agree with |
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Post by jcjames on Feb 24, 2023 14:04:49 GMT -8
From the liberal dictionary: in·tol·er·ance /inˈtäl(ə)rəns/ Learn to pronounce noun 1. Disagreement with me tol·er·ance /ˈtäl(ə)rəns/ Learn to pronounce noun 1. Agreeing with me   |
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Post by kav on Feb 24, 2023 14:15:23 GMT -8
From the liberal dictionary: in·tol·er·ance /inˈtäl(ə)rəns/ Learn to pronounce noun 1. Disagreement with me tol·er·ance /ˈtäl(ə)rəns/ Learn to pronounce noun 1. Agreeing with me  |
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Post by shohei on Feb 24, 2023 15:07:47 GMT -8
From the actual dictionary
ass·hole /ˈasˌhōl/ noun vulgar slang•North American noun:  ; plural noun: assholes 1. a person's anus. 2. a stupid, irritating, or contemptible person. |
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 24, 2023 15:52:31 GMT -8
From the liberal dictionary: hate /hāt/ Learn to pronounce verb Anything I disagree with Looks like someone is bored. Can't you go cash your liberal social security check or something? I just want to point out that THIS is what conflating looks like. |
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Post by kav on Feb 24, 2023 15:56:06 GMT -8
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Post by kav on Feb 24, 2023 16:54:39 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2023 0:53:11 GMT -8
You make some reasonable points. But again, how do conservatives justify attempting to control the lives of others - strangers - in intimate areas such as birth control? You haven't addressed this. Do conservatives support liberty, or do they not? Liberty to own a gun, but not to take a morning after pill? It seems, at best, a double standard. I do not speak for conservatives. But I can only guess it's same way that anyone who upholds proper laws attempts to "control" what other people do. Directly and seriously causing physical harm to others is wrong. Agree? Does it then matter if the harm is being done in the public square, in a semi-public place of business, or the privacy of one's own backyard, home or bedroom? Directly and seriously harming others is wrong. Agree? The term "birth-control" covers many many things. I was focusing on abortion which was introduced in the OP (and is also used as a form of "birth-control"), and not so much on the pill or condoms etc. Although I find those also morally wrong, it is a very different thing for the state to get involved in regulating adults buying condoms or taking the pill.... though I did elaborate on that in my earlier post. ETA: Who do you think does speak for conservatives? Who speaks for moderate/independents? Who speaks for leftist liberals? Who does Zod speak for? Clarification appreciated!  Conservatives are of course a divergent group, as are the others you mention. And of course Zod speaks for Zod.  |
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; plural noun: assholes
