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Post by kav on Feb 23, 2023 16:04:50 GMT -8
Left used to say question authority while the right said respect authority. Mostly authority was worthy of respect. Now the left says obey authority and the right says question authority. Which is no longer worthy of repect it has been compromised by a subversive socialist divisive agenda. I knew hippies in the 60s-they werent seeking handouts and other people's money-they were independent, generally well educated and questioned everything including each other. Today's hippies are 'gimme' people and question nothing-they just follow the marching orders from universities and the media.
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 23, 2023 16:12:07 GMT -8
You're trying to equate everything politically. It doesn't work that way. Stick to the subject at hand and either bring a logical point or concede that you don't have one. I do not believe abortion is murder, if you do that's your choice ( key word ). If you don't want an abortion, don't get one...is that not a logical point? How was him saying if I don't want a slave, don't own one germane to that conversation or at all appropriate. I always find it funny when people refer to you as a hippie, I always correct them that you're as far away from a hippie as one can be and that just having long hair doesn't make someone a hippie. The difference is in who makes the choice. Duh. In slavery, the slave is bound to the choice of the owner. In childhood, the unborn child is bound to the choice of the owner. In both cases, the "slave" is bound to the choice of the "owner". I've said this since the start of the pandemic when I began to notice it, there is a societal illness and those that can't think logically drift towards extreme liberalism using ideology that isn't sound. If you can't see how the two are similar your logic tree is broken. That's not an insult. It's a tragedy. Which is EXACTLY what they did when they went after the unjabbed. Amazing how it repeats itself. Now you're conflating slavery with vaccines. Congratulations. I think you might be cognitively impaired. It's really simple but I'm trying to spell it out for you: He's not CONFLATING slavery with abortion. I am not CONFLATING abortion with vaccines. Conflation is not the right word you're looking for. jcjames was drawing a parallel to show how the pattern of behavior and the consequences are the same between slavery and abortion. I was drawing a parallel between two separate ideologies to show how in both, the young have suffered most. What I am trying to show, is something that has become clear to people who study a little history, and that is that by pursuing faulty ideology which is not logically sound and full of holes, it becomes extremely destructive. When you push faulty ideology to it's conclusion, it philosophically begins to attack the most vulnerable in the population. That is a fact borne out by history. The weak get sacrificed and slaughtered. It happened in Mao's China. It happened under Marxism. It happened under Hitler. It's happening today. Instead of making things better, the same people you should be saving start dying by the millions. The young are being sacrificed so the adults can feel good. That's where we're at in history. Again. EDIT: This is not about vaccines. It's not about abortion. It's not about politics. It's about LOGIC AND IDEOLOGY creating broken rules using faulty logic and faulty ideology are destroying people's lives. The lives the people who the people making the rules should be protecting. We are repeating history.
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Post by kav on Feb 23, 2023 17:08:17 GMT -8
Why are liberals so concerned with sex lives of strangers? Sexual orientation and race-that's all liberals are interested in. People are not individuals, they are members of groups to libs-interchangeable, fungible. Why is the most important thing for libs what people choose to do with their genitals? or what color they are? I have a dream-
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Post by shohei on Feb 23, 2023 21:12:03 GMT -8
Stupid is as stupid does. Every single time.
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Post by kav on Feb 23, 2023 21:21:00 GMT -8
Stupid is as stupid does. Every single time. You would know.
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Post by shohei on Feb 23, 2023 21:26:43 GMT -8
That's a zinger. Don't you have a hut to go into?
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Post by kav on Feb 23, 2023 21:28:59 GMT -8
Rabid libby in da house!
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Post by shohei on Feb 23, 2023 21:31:06 GMT -8
Oh you sweet sweet child. You have literally no idea.
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Post by kav on Feb 23, 2023 21:31:38 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2023 22:41:51 GMT -8
Agreed, but what about the issue I've raised in the OP? While abortion is an unstoppable force/immovable object debate proposition, do you support conservative attacks on birth control? If so, do you see that this guts the personal freedoms of others, almost all of whom are not within your right to control? How do such attempts to control the freedom of strangers square with conservative support for liberty? Through legislation, I don't think it's the most effective or best way to reduce contraceptive use. There may come future developments which would warrant a more legislative approach though - purely hypothetical here, but, if future scientific findings indicated far longer lasting and detrimental effects of prolonged contraceptive pill use by women on the development of later children. Suppose maybe in the future it is demonstrated that longterm use of the pill increases autism, homosexuality, future suicidal ideation, bipolar or some other affliction/disorder in later children conceived after stopping the pill... legislation could be warranted. But teaching society that it has the freedom to use the pill should be countered with teaching society what exactly that means with regards to disconnecting sexual gratification between two adults with the natural and good consequence of creating children, and thus creating families. And by "teaching" I don't necessarily mean in formal public schools. More like showing through mediums of cultural and social means. Just like I wouldn't want the state to criminalize adultery or divorce, one can easily see that rampant adultery and divorce does have negative effects on society as whole as well as personal relationships. So the balance should be to not glamorize or reward adultery and divorce rather than get out the legislative ban-hammer. You make some reasonable points. But again, how do conservatives justify attempting to control the lives of others - strangers - in intimate areas such as birth control? You haven't addressed this. Do conservatives support liberty, or do they not? Liberty to own a gun, but not to take a morning after pill? It seems, at best, a double standard.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2023 22:44:48 GMT -8
Florida couple unable to get abortion will see baby die after delivery Doctors’ interpretation of state law prevents procedure, family tells Washington Post, despite baby’s fatal illness
This is horrendous. But the birth control issue is the tricky area now. Conservatives seeking to control or ban not just abortion, but birth control as well. VERY troubling.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2023 22:49:39 GMT -8
Really? You continue to skip an honest question? What choice did Gianna Jessen or Claire Culwell or the other thousands of abortion-survivors have? If you are pro-choice - please answer what choice they had? And more important - why, if you are pro-choice, why won't you defend the choice that the unborn are never given? Instead you throw out veiled insults and tropes and strawman hashtags. I threw out the strawman? You conflated abortion to slavery. STOP trying to control other peoples lives. It's NONE of your business if someone decides to get an abortion, a sex change operation or legally marry their same sex partner. Worry about your own backyard, hypocrite.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2023 22:56:53 GMT -8
Then its none of your business if he wants to do that. Worry about your own backyard, hypocrite. You are really missed on the CGC boards. Hypocrite. Breathtaking is it not? Objecting to conservative attempts to control the lives of others in the most intimate areas of personal liberty is conflated with liberals & others thus acting in a like manner. Zod would provide analogies to such deranged thinking, but the wise already understand, and the foolish...?
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Post by theCapraAegagrus on Feb 24, 2023 9:14:30 GMT -8
Why don't we talk about what conservatives do then? Aside from being the party of hate and intolerance.
The irony...
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Post by quantumcomics on Feb 24, 2023 9:37:31 GMT -8
Why don't we talk about what conservatives do then? Aside from being the party of hate and intolerance.
The irony...
Explain why you find it ironic?
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