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Post by parker1865 on Sept 15, 2020 13:17:14 GMT -8
What I meant was the pharmaceutical research community.
Telomeres are sequences at the end of a chromosome that prevent that chromosome from deterioration.
Weinstein had a finding that the length of telemeres on lab provided mice for research was much longer that naturally bred mice in the wild.
The reason the length of telomeres was significant is that longer telomeres are MUCH more resistant to disease - it's literally like having a fountain of youth.
The lab mice being supplied were bred and rebred at a very young age causing telomeres to unnaturally lengthen over a period of time, making them much more resistant to diseases than regular mice.
Most if not ALL of the mice being used for research came from one lab in the US.
But the pharmaceutical tests were being done with the presumed understanding that the mice had shorter telomeres just like naturally bred mice.
They didn't.
The lab mice were superhuman but the tests were assuming that they were just normal mice.
Nobody noticed this and the research gleaned from lab mice was tainted for years if not decades for cancer research in particular but really, for any pharmaceuticals that were approved of based on testing on mice. Which basically would have been EVERYTHING on the market.
The size of the mistake would be so large that the words 'biblical proportions' would be too small to describe it.
It also meant that people taking these pharmaceuticals were going to have side effects (like people dying from heart diseases caused by the drugs) that were undocumented in the original research because of the mice used.
Instead of sending a shockwave through the pharmaceutical research community that should have devastated it, it was hushed, swept under the rug and the mice silently replaced with better candidates for testing on...and the 'problem' went away.
Literally billions and billions (maybe trillions) of dollars of faulty research and who knows how many affected lives, and it all just conveniently disappeared.
i understood the inference, vince. all of this money grab, from researchers/universities/scientists to pharma to investors to political position, is driven by one engine: the pbm payoff. that is it. that is the heart of the entire decision tree concerning the selected end result. that is where the rage has to be directed, by everyone. the shock wave you speak of, has been known, dissected and suitable position of the dollar digested, to formulate the end goal....wampum. it is pbms. it always has been pbms. always. ever since bayer. |
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Post by Stu on Sept 15, 2020 13:42:19 GMT -8
Kind of like you and comic books, eh? i guess, one could say that. the difference i think, is that i never mind stating what i don't know about a subject. as to the "...kind of like..." comparison, what i actually had in mind as a comparison to bob, was your zero understanding of numismatics and philately ( a little help for you....that means coins and stamps  ). Ignorance is bliss. Why would I want to know that stuff, to impress a GMILF? Translation: I wish stamps and coins were as cool as comics. I'm still waiting for the Inverted Jenny movie. |
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Post by vintagecomics on Sept 15, 2020 15:09:31 GMT -8
What I meant was the pharmaceutical research community.
i understood the inference, vince. all of this money grab, from researchers/universities/scientists to pharma to investors to political position, is driven by one engine: the pbm payoff. that is it. that is the heart of the entire decision tree concerning the selected end result. that is where the rage has to be directed, by everyone. the shock wave you speak of, has been known, dissected and suitable position of the dollar digested, to formulate the end goal....wampum. it is pbms. it always has been pbms. always. ever since bayer. Ah, OK. Gotcha. It went over my head.
And..Vince?
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Post by parker1865 on Sept 15, 2020 15:16:20 GMT -8
i understood the inference, vince. all of this money grab, from researchers/universities/scientists to pharma to investors to political position, is driven by one engine: the pbm payoff. that is it. that is the heart of the entire decision tree concerning the selected end result. that is where the rage has to be directed, by everyone. the shock wave you speak of, has been known, dissected and suitable position of the dollar digested, to formulate the end goal....wampum. it is pbms. it always has been pbms. always. ever since bayer. Ah, OK. Gotcha. It went over my head.
And..Vince?
 i typed vintage and it came out vince......it was probably stu that caused it. he masturbates while reading my posts. i don't mind groupies, but i can't get rid of the guy. he and andrew are possessed. get 50 posts and all will become clear. get 50 posts or so, and all will become clefr. |
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Post by parker1865 on Sept 15, 2020 15:19:32 GMT -8
clfer. across between clear and clearer = clfer. clever, huh?
spellsuk does not woik hear.
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Sept 16, 2020 8:08:45 GMT -8
Sorry, I knew it was Rhonda but I did mix it up. I'm surrounded by Danicas and Rhondas and Patricks.  This is a fascinating read on not only the theory that Covid 19 is manmade (although likely accidentally released from a lab) but also the POLITICS involved in the science. Something we can't talk about over there. It mirrors what Bret Weinstein (a world famous biologist who ALSO was featured on Joe Rogan) has been saying about the 'gain of function' attributes of the virus and how it was potentially manmade.
It's a great read.
This was being discussed on the radio this morning. Chinese defector virologist Dr Li-Meng Yan publishes report claiming COVID-19 was made in a lab |
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Post by Stu on Sept 16, 2020 14:08:36 GMT -8
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Post by vintagecomics on Sept 23, 2020 9:19:54 GMT -8
Yeah, Flee nailed it with that one. That's probably the funniest one of me he's ever done.
So I've put a lot of posts in the Coronavirus thread on the CGC chat forum and I've been called nearly every name in the book by guys like paperheart, tth2, 500, Randall Dowling and others.
tth2 even went so far as to say that I'm sacrificing babies.
The reality is that MOST things I've been an advocate of have been over time proven to be the best way to handle the pandemic.
Early in on the thread I put a focus on self health. I got scoffed at and mocked. It's becoming apparent that healthy people are not affected by the virus much.
I made posts about how infecting willing volunteers would be the fastest way to advance study of the virus. I was told it was unethical. It's happening.
I summarized studies and information about how Vitamin D was helpful in battling respiratory illnesses and how many dying from Covid were vitamin D deficient. I got laughed at, jokes made about me, etc. Studies are now emerging making Vitamin D look like a miracle cure. One company has even bet $100,000 that vitamin D will cure Covid.
I have been constantly posting about Sweden only to be openly mocked by paperheart, tth2 and others...and now it's looking like Sweden is looking like the dark horse in this race against the pandemic with a sustainable and effective approach to handling the pandemic successfully compared to ALL other countries that had massive outbreaks.
When I asked why locked down countries are still struggling with the pandemic but Sweden wasn't, nobody could answer. 
When everyone clutched pearls and horrifically prattled on about a 2nd wave I asked them what was different about a 2nd wave from the 1st and nobody could answer.
I've asked MULTIPLE times (maybe 8 times now) why children under 5 are more adversely affected by the flu than by Covid. Nobody has answered.
I've asked why they clutch at 'studies' that just theorize things but outright reject actual studies (like the joint study between Sweden and Finland on the effect of Covid and school children) out of hand.
I don't need an affirmation when I'm right...I know when I'm right, but their negativity and name calling, libel and shaming makes them guilty of everything that they fear about others. They will never admit they were wrong just like no politician will ever admit that they are wrong.
It's so ironic that for all the seething dislike they have for others calling them names, anti-science and intellectually dishonest, they can't see the intellectual dishonesty in themselves.
These sorts of people are the reason why no country can be great.
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Post by steveinthecity on Sept 25, 2020 13:14:21 GMT -8
*snip* These sorts of people are the reason why no country can be great. I’ve always been of a mind that only a great Country would have these sorts of people as Citizens.  |
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 13, 2021 9:45:47 GMT -8
*snip* These sorts of people are the reason why no country can be great. I’ve always been of a mind that only a great Country would have these sorts of people as Citizens. More and more this pandemic is looking like some grand plan.
I'm a conspiracy theorist but I don't follow just any conspiracy. I care about the facts and am not married to any single narrative. I sent this to some people on the CGC chat forum the other day:
If Batman was a Chinese master strategist this is how he would have tried for world domination.
Manufacture and introduce an unstoppable, highly contagious virus, obfuscate information to the WHO until it gets out and becomes unstoppable, crush Trump's chances at re-election, brainwash the masses into submission so that they accept authoritarian type measures through fear, have them accept censorship by companies that are more powerful than the president and then elect in a new president that is a Chinese ally and an ally to the media companies.
In the mean time, China has fully recovered from the Contagion (because they new they could recover quickly using authoritarian power) and their economy is firing on all cylinders at full power while the world buckles socially, economically and health wise.
Throw in a few well planted seeds to riot about in the US for good measure to further create disarray.
I know it's not proven and deep in conspiracy theory territory but it all lines up so perfectly it's hard to not see it once you put all the pieces.
The other option that it's all just co-incidence becomes much harder to believe.
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Post by steveinthecity on Jan 14, 2021 12:11:49 GMT -8
I’ve always been of a mind that only a great Country would have these sorts of people as Citizens. More and more this pandemic is looking like some grand plan.
I'm a conspiracy theorist but I don't follow just any conspiracy. I care about the facts and am not married to any single narrative. I sent this to some people on the CGC chat forum the other day:
If Batman was a Chinese master strategist this is how he would have tried for world domination.
Manufacture and introduce an unstoppable, highly contagious virus, obfuscate information to the WHO until it gets out and becomes unstoppable, crush Trump's chances at re-election, brainwash the masses into submission so that they accept authoritarian type measures through fear, have them accept censorship by companies that are more powerful than the president and then elect in a new president that is a Chinese ally and an ally to the media companies.
In the mean time, China has fully recovered from the Contagion (because they new they could recover quickly using authoritarian power) and their economy is firing on all cylinders at full power while the world buckles socially, economically and health wise.
Throw in a few well planted seeds to riot about in the US for good measure to further create disarray.
I know it's not proven and deep in conspiracy theory territory but it all lines up so perfectly it's hard to not see it once you put all the pieces.
The other option that it's all just co-incidence[b/] becomes much harder to believe.
I can’t speak to whether or not Batman is a Chinese master strategist as I don’t follow that series, but for the other events(or suppositions) one would have to know each is true in order for them to be “coincidences”. Until each is proven or disproven there’s more than just one option I’d think. |
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 15, 2021 7:29:37 GMT -8
More and more this pandemic is looking like some grand plan.
I'm a conspiracy theorist but I don't follow just any conspiracy. I care about the facts and am not married to any single narrative. I sent this to some people on the CGC chat forum the other day:
If Batman was a Chinese master strategist this is how he would have tried for world domination.
I can’t speak to whether or not Batman is a Chinese master strategist as I don’t follow that series, but for the other events(or suppositions) one would have to know each is true in order for them to be “coincidences”. Until each is proven or disproven there’s more than just one option I’d think. I understand.
I'm not saying it's true. Especially the part about the virus being manufactured (although altered to be contagious or have other qualities through functional research is definitely a real possibly)
It's a wild conspiracy theory at this point but it's amazing how well the pieces fit based on what's happening in the world.
China's obfuscation of information and investigation does NOT help their cause, either.
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Post by davidpg on Jan 15, 2021 11:13:12 GMT -8
I can’t speak to whether or not Batman is a Chinese master strategist as I don’t follow that series, but for the other events(or suppositions) one would have to know each is true in order for them to be “coincidences”. Until each is proven or disproven there’s more than just one option I’d think.
I'm not saying it's true. Heck, I'll say that it's true. |
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Post by steveinthecity on Jan 15, 2021 12:52:46 GMT -8
I'm not saying it's true. Heck, I'll say that it's true. The Batman part or the other stuff? |
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 15, 2021 14:07:09 GMT -8
Heck, I'll say that it's true. The Batman part or the other stuff? He's talking about the other stuff.
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i typed vintage and it came out vince......it was probably stu that caused it. he masturbates while reading my posts.
