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Post by vintagecomics on Sept 14, 2020 11:24:14 GMT -8
I think Bill makes a lot of sense here. To his comment about Huntington, NY and the challenge for residents to lose weight, I’ve often wondered about communities in the States holding the equivalence of Germany’s volksmarches. Have a group get together once a month (or whatever) and walk a pre-planned distance and route. Let people register if they want an event t-shirt or tchotchke. Local businesses can sponsor and give out raffle prizes at the end. Promote activity. He takes a lot of heat from the left every time he points out that most health problems in the US (including our problems with COVID-19) are obesity-related. We make smokers pay extra for health insurance, but we give the obese a pass. It doesn't make any sense. Governing by popularity - don't touch the booze or the pizza if you want to get reelected. I'm just flabbergasted by the replies of some in the Coronavirus thread.
Back in March I stated that working on your health would yield the greatest results in the fight against Covid. I got laughed at. So far, it seems our best defense against a good outcome to Covid is being healthy.
I've reiterated it several times with basically crickets as a reply.
The people in that thread are mostly interested in clutching pearls, condemning their own country (the US) and crying about how horrible things are.
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Post by parker1865 on Sept 14, 2020 11:28:32 GMT -8
He takes a lot of heat from the left every time he points out that most health problems in the US (including our problems with COVID-19) are obesity-related. We make smokers pay extra for health insurance, but we give the obese a pass. It doesn't make any sense. Governing by popularity - don't touch the booze or the pizza if you want to get reelected. I'm just flabbergasted by the replies of some in the Coronavirus thread.
Back in March I stated that working on your health would yield the greatest results in the fight against Covid. I got laughed at. So far, it seems our best defense against a good outcome to Covid is being healthy.
I've reiterated it several times with basically crickets as a reply.
The people in that thread are mostly interested in clutching pearls, condemning their own country (the US) and crying about how horrible things are.
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Post by vintagecomics on Sept 14, 2020 12:42:51 GMT -8
I'm just flabbergasted by the replies of some in the Coronavirus thread.
Back in March I stated that working on your health would yield the greatest results in the fight against Covid. I got laughed at. So far, it seems our best defense against a good outcome to Covid is being healthy.
I've reiterated it several times with basically crickets as a reply.
The people in that thread are mostly interested in clutching pearls, condemning their own country (the US) and crying about how horrible things are.
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Post by parker1865 on Sept 14, 2020 13:55:25 GMT -8
ahem..... Who are you over there? Sorry, I'm not here often.   |
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Sept 14, 2020 16:42:24 GMT -8
He takes a lot of heat from the left every time he points out that most health problems in the US (including our problems with COVID-19) are obesity-related. We make smokers pay extra for health insurance, but we give the obese a pass. It doesn't make any sense. Governing by popularity - don't touch the booze or the pizza if you want to get reelected. I'm just flabbergasted by the replies of some in the Coronavirus thread. Back in March I stated that working on your health would yield the greatest results in the fight against Covid. I got laughed at. So far, it seems our best defense against a good outcome to Covid is being healthy.
I've reiterated it several times with basically crickets as a reply.
The people in that thread are mostly interested in clutching pearls, condemning their own country (the US) and crying about how horrible things are.
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Post by vintagecomics on Sept 14, 2020 22:15:13 GMT -8
I'm just flabbergasted by the replies of some in the Coronavirus thread. Back in March I stated that working on your health would yield the greatest results in the fight against Covid. I got laughed at. So far, it seems our best defense against a good outcome to Covid is being healthy.
I've reiterated it several times with basically crickets as a reply.
The people in that thread are mostly interested in clutching pearls, condemning their own country (the US) and crying about how horrible things are.
Joe Rogan is another who has been discussing/promoting health and a strong immune system. I know. I first quoted Rogan in that thread when Michael Olsterholm appeared in March talking about Covid and everything he said came to pass.
I next quoted Rogan when Dr. Danica Patrick a nutritional expert appeared on the show in April or May and she brought a lot of interesting things to light including Vitamin D and how it may be beneficial with Covid infections.
Because I mentioned Rogan's name I became a pariah (as did Rogan) by a bunch of angry mobsters.
Most of the stuff I said came to pass - the focus on personal health, the need for the use of volunteers to speed up the battle against the pandemic, Sweden's approach looking like a success and many other things.
The problem is that there is a rigid group of negative people that are so morbidly fixated on bad news that they can't allow anything remotely reasonable or middle of the road.
I know at least 15 and maybe 20 people who just won't post in that thread anymore because of how negative, aggressive, volatile and offensive those guys become to anyone who has an opposing post.
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Sept 15, 2020 6:26:01 GMT -8
Joe Rogan is another who has been discussing/promoting health and a strong immune system. I know. I first quoted Rogan in that thread when Michael Olsterholm appeared in March talking about Covid and everything he said came to pass. I next quoted Rogan when Dr. Danica Patrick a nutritional expert appeared on the show in April or May and she brought a lot of interesting things to light including Vitamin D and how it may be beneficial with Covid infections.
Because I mentioned Rogan's name I became a pariah (as did Rogan) by a bunch of angry mobsters.
Most of the stuff I said came to pass - the focus on personal health, the need for the use of volunteers to speed up the battle against the pandemic, Sweden's approach looking like a success and many other things.
The problem is that there is a rigid group of negative people that are so morbidly fixated on bad news that they can't allow anything remotely reasonable or middle of the road.
I know at least 15 and maybe 20 people who just won't post in that thread anymore because of how negative, aggressive, volatile and offensive those guys become to anyone who has an opposing post.
I think you mean Dr. Rhonda Patrick. Danica is a race car driver.  She was also on Rogan though. Anyway...yes, I saw both those episodes. There was also some discussion when Bill Burr was on the show. That was a hilarious interview. Here's an excerpt... |
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Post by vintagecomics on Sept 15, 2020 7:50:07 GMT -8
Sorry, I knew it was Rhonda but I did mix it up.
I'm surrounded by Danicas and Rhondas and Patricks.
This is a fascinating read on not only the theory that Covid 19 is manmade (although likely accidentally released from a lab) but also the POLITICS involved in the science. Something we can't talk about over there.
It mirrors what Bret Weinstein (a world famous biologist who ALSO was featured on Joe Rogan) has been saying about the 'gain of function' attributes of the virus and how it was potentially manmade.
It's a great read.
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Post by steveinthecity on Sept 15, 2020 8:20:29 GMT -8
I didn’t hear/see the Weinstein interview, but I’ll start in on it in just a bit.
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Post by vintagecomics on Sept 15, 2020 8:27:19 GMT -8
The Weistein interview is brilliant. I've listened to it more than once and always get something new from it.
He touches on so many things including intellectual opposition for political reasons, Covid being potentially manmade and corruption within the scientific community.
His findings on the length of telomirs in lab rats should have been front page news and would have broken in half any research done on lab rats for decades. It literally should have turned the scientific / pharmaceutical community on it's ear.
Instead, it was silently swept under the rug. 
It literally makes me want to go out and rage in protest at the corruption involved.
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Post by parker1865 on Sept 15, 2020 9:26:13 GMT -8
The Weistein interview is brilliant. I've listened to it more than once and always get something new from it.
He touches on so many things including intellectual opposition for political reasons, Covid being potentially manmade and corruption within the scientific community.
His findings on the length of telomirs in lab rats should have been front page news and would have broken in half any research done on lab rats for decades. It literally should have turned the scientific / pharmaceutical community on it's ear.
Instead, it was silently swept under the rug.
It literally makes me want to go out and rage in protest at the corruption involved.
i sure hope by "pharmaceutical community" you are directing the majority of rage at pbms.....remember my advice to bob, don't stray into an area that you have zero understanding of (which he can't resist doing, anyway. a regular plagiarist, he is, me thinks). |
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Sept 15, 2020 10:37:41 GMT -8
Sorry, I knew it was Rhonda but I did mix it up. I'm surrounded by Danicas and Rhondas and Patricks. This is a fascinating read on not only the theory that Covid 19 is manmade (although likely accidentally released from a lab) but also the POLITICS involved in the science. Something we can't talk about over there. It mirrors what Bret Weinstein (a world famous biologist who ALSO was featured on Joe Rogan) has been saying about the 'gain of function' attributes of the virus and how it was potentially manmade.
It's a great read.
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Post by vintagecomics on Sept 15, 2020 11:05:57 GMT -8
What I meant was the pharmaceutical research community.
Telomeres are sequences at the end of a chromosome that prevent that chromosome from deterioration.
Weinstein had a finding that the length of telemeres on lab provided mice for research was much longer that naturally bred mice in the wild.
The reason the length of telomeres was significant is that longer telomeres are MUCH more resistant to disease - it's literally like having a fountain of youth.
The lab mice being supplied were bred and rebred at a very young age causing telomeres to unnaturally lengthen over a period of time, making them much more resistant to diseases than regular mice.
Most if not ALL of the mice being used for research came from one lab in the US.
But the pharmaceutical tests were being done with the presumed understanding that the mice had shorter telomeres just like naturally bred mice.
They didn't.
The lab mice were superhuman but the tests were assuming that they were just normal mice.
Nobody noticed this and the research gleaned from lab mice was tainted for years if not decades for cancer research in particular but really, for any pharmaceuticals that were approved of based on testing on mice. Which basically would have been EVERYTHING on the market.
The size of the mistake would be so large that the words 'biblical proportions' would be too small to describe it.
It also meant that people taking these pharmaceuticals were going to have side effects (like people dying from heart diseases caused by the drugs) that were undocumented in the original research because of the mice used.
Instead of sending a shockwave through the pharmaceutical research community that should have devastated it, it was hushed, swept under the rug and the mice silently replaced with better candidates for testing on...and the 'problem' went away.
Literally billions and billions (maybe trillions) of dollars of faulty research and who knows how many affected lives, and it all just conveniently disappeared.
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Post by Stu on Sept 15, 2020 12:01:54 GMT -8
The Weistein interview is brilliant. I've listened to it more than once and always get something new from it.
He touches on so many things including intellectual opposition for political reasons, Covid being potentially manmade and corruption within the scientific community. His findings on the length of telomirs in lab rats should have been front page news and would have broken in half any research done on lab rats for decades. It literally should have turned the scientific / pharmaceutical community on it's ear. Instead, it was silently swept under the rug
i.....remember my advice to bob, don't stray into an area that you have zero understanding of... Kind of like you and comic books, eh? |
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Post by parker1865 on Sept 15, 2020 13:08:43 GMT -8
i.....remember my advice to bob, don't stray into an area that you have zero understanding of... Kind of like you and comic books, eh? i guess, one could say that. the difference i think, is that i never mind stating what i don't know about a subject. as to the "...kind of like..." comparison, what i actually had in mind as a comparison to bob, was your zero understanding of numismatics and philately ( a little help for you....that means coins and stamps  ). you and bob show up like stray dogs, wagging your wanger exhibiting a hard-on about things you know absolutely zero about. boring. very boring. |
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She was also on Rogan though. Anyway...yes, I saw both those episodes. There was also some discussion when Bill Burr was on the show. That was a hilarious interview. Here's an excerpt...
I saw the Weinstein interview and found it very interesting.
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