"All parks, playgrounds, sports fields, recreation areas, open space, bike paths, and trails."
"Open space"? That's a bit general Are there cops in little shorts riding bikes around giving people smoking tickets?
The thing is...no one smokes out here anymore. It's a social death sentence. They just raised the price of cigs something like $2.50 per pack a few days ago (a special tax).
But dogs. Dogs have human rights now. In Los Gatos, most of the water fountains have special water fountains at the base for your dog. You can bring them in a lot of stores out here. Some shops put out dispensers with free dog treats.
This is what I mean when I say there is no right or wrong, there are only choices that the tribe makes. The tribe decided that smoking was wrong and dogs are good. Doesn't matter what you think. Neighbor dog keeping you up all night with his barking...too bad.
There are high-end condos near me (I am talking $500K and up) where smoking is not allowed on the entire property. Including in your own condo. Nor your private balcony/deck. I am not a smoker, but that just seems... draconian to me.
There were always several cartons on top of the fridge. I probably reeked of cigarettes as a kid and didn't know it. I'm pretty sure all of us kids smelled the same. I like seeing old photos where there's an ashtray in every picture. We had a beanbag ashtray in our bathroom and special holders for lighters in the living and dining rooms.
I don't make passive/aggressive comments to smokers.
I tell them, to their faces, to put it out.
How many fights did that start? If the answer is none then that's because you live in CA. You wouldn't do that in NYC Is it illegal to smoke outside in CA?
I don't have a problem...at all...with getting hit by a smoker. I don't care where it is. If someone wants to hit me because they're mad I told them to consider someone besides themselves, hey...more power to them. I'm not going to hit them back...I have far too much to lose...but if it makes them feel all warm and cuddly to do so, they're free to do so. Doesn't change a thing.
I am not without my ability to intimidate.
They have a choice about where they can smoke.
I don't have a choice about where I can breathe.
I think smokers should go outside too.
I've rarely met people so blindingly oblivious, or so casually arrogant, as people who don't understand that cigarette smoke is SMOKE, and it obeys the laws of physics just like everything else. It doesn't stay confined to an area...it does what all smoke does.
Smoke lingers, as I'm sure you know, and hangs in the air for quite some time after someone exhales it.
It's simple courtesy. I can't think of any other human activity besides really bad farting that imposes on others so directly, without their willing participation. Perhaps realllllly smelly dudes, but people mostly bathe.
I don't walk by people and release a volley of noxious intestinal fumes...why should people have to smell their smoke?
I don't care...truly...if smokers want to pollute their own bodies. Your choice, 100%. I'm hardly one to talk about mistreating one's body, fatass that I am.
But don't force me to deal with it by doing it in a public space, where I have to make an effort to avoid it, if that's even possible.
Is it illegal to smoke outside in CA?
It's illegal to smoke in public places in many municipalities, but I don't care about its legality or lack thereof. I have a neighbor who smokes on her back porch. For some unknown reason, the current is just so that it wafts into my house. I can't even escape it in my own home. And there's nothing I can do about it.
There are plenty of designated smoking places around here, including certain bars. If I were a smoker, I'd simply do it in those places, where I couldn't unintentionally inflict it on anyone.
I'll never understand why it's perfectly socially acceptable to inflict things on others without their permission.
By the way...I say the same thing to the men and women who pour 55 gallon drums of cologne on themselves.
Post by Jimmers Nice Guy on Apr 17, 2017 20:04:37 GMT -8
sounds like my grandma's house in the late seventies,early eighties. I've kept most of the stand up ashtrays and fancy lighters,ect. Remember driving in the car and three to four adults would all be lit up as you laid in the space under the back windshield?
I have strength to endure,and all the love so pure. why....can't I touch it? Eat a salty wang,hippydippies