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Post by vintagecomics on Oct 9, 2022 7:35:25 GMT -8
The entire principle behind ESG is creating a stable investing environment for large investors. Companies the size of countries are dictating policy and not the people, because where they invest their money matters more than what the people want. The lobbying money buys the direction of the government by lobbying in certain directions or censoring messages they don't want to be heard by the public and prevent lobbyists from attaining their goals. All that matters is money to them. Nothing else. I thought about putting this in the China thread but I do believe it really belongs in the ESG thread because ESG is all about tightening controls to create more predictability for investors. The #1 reason digital currency is being opposed by governments has nothing to do with your safety. It has to do with their lack of ability to CONTROL it. Look at how China may decide to control THEIR digital currency....they may put an expiration date on it. This would not only control the money supply but also the money demand. Now, tell me that there aren't Western countries thinking about this? Imagine how you would feel if the dollars in your pocket were going to expire soon? Wow. The implications of this are mind boggling. www.msn.com/en-us/money/topstories/%E2%80%9Cdigital-currency-yuan-comes-with-an-expiry-date-spend-or-it-will-vanish%E2%80%9D/vi-AA12ze8O?category=foryou
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Post by vintagecomics on Oct 15, 2022 12:50:43 GMT -8
This 20+ is a methodical, intellectual view of what is happening the world.
It genuinely belongs in the Climate Change and gaslighting threads as well, but I think it fits in here nicely.
The real message doesn't start until about 2 minutes in.
The central focus of this message is around a company called Deloitte and I'll touch on that later, but I'd be genuinely curious to know who actually listened to this message.
You can catch the gist of the message in the first 10 minutes of the message but the entire message is worth the listen.
This message strikes right at the two front teeth of what's happening using proper logic and philosophy.
Please LMK if you listened as I have some follow up thoughts.
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Post by vintagecomics on Oct 17, 2022 11:01:46 GMT -8
The above video is a reading of Jordan Peterson's essay in The Telegraph. Peddlers of environmental doom have shown their true totalitarian colours Corporations and utopians are offering authoritarian solutions to crises only democracy and free markets can solve by JORDAN PETERSON ------------------------- {Essay in SPOILER} Deloitte is the largest “professional services network” in the world. Headquartered in London, it is also one of the big four global accounting companies, offering audit, consulting, risk advisory, tax and legal services to corporate clients.
With a third of a million professionals operating on those fronts worldwide, and as the third-largest privately owned company in the US, Deloitte is a behemoth with numerous and far-reaching tentacles.
In short: it is an entity we should all know about, not least because such enterprises no longer limit themselves to their proper bailiwick (profit-centred business strategising, say), but – consciously or not – have assumed the role as councillors to believers in unchecked globalisation whose policies have sparked considerable unrest around the world.
If you’re seeking the cause of the Dutch agriculture and fisheries protests, the Canadian trucker convoy, the yellow-jackets in France, the farmer rebellion in India a few years ago, the recent catastrophic collapse of Sri Lanka, or the energy crisis in Europe and Australia, you can instruct yourself by the recent pronouncements from Deloitte.
Whilst not directly responsible, they offer an insight into the elite groupthink that has triggered these events; into the cabal of utopians operating in the media, corporate and government fronts, wielding a nightmarish vision of environmental apocalypse.
Outlandish claims
In May this year, Deloitte released a clarion call to precipitous action trumpeting the climate emergency confronting us. Called ‘The Turning Point: A Global Summary’, it is a stellar example of a mentality more common among officials in the EU: one of fundamental bureaucratic overreach (and one which generated Brexit – a very good decision on the part of the Brits, in my view) that threatens the very survival of that selfsame EU.
The report opens with two claims: first, that the storms, wildfires, droughts, downpours, and floods around the globe in the last 18 months are unique and unprecedented – a dubious claim – and implicitly that the “science” is now at a point where we can say without doubt that experts can and must model the entire ecology and economy of the planet (!) and that we must modify everyone’s behaviour, by hook or by crook, to avoid what would otherwise be the most expensive environmental and social catastrophe in history.
The Deloitte “models” posit that “climate impacts” could affect global economic output, and say that unchecked climate change will cost us $178 trillion over the next 50 years – that’s $25,000 per person, to put it in human terms.
Who dares deny such facts, stated so mathematically? So precisely? So scientifically?
Let’s update Mark Twain’s famous dictum: there are lies, damned lies, statistics – and computer models.
“Computer model” does not mean “data” (and even “data” does not mean “fact”). “Computer model” means, at best, “hypothesis” posing as mathematical fact.
No real scientist says “follow the science.” Yet this is exactly what bodies such as the EU consistently pronounce, pushing for collectivist solutions that do more harm than good.
Solutions in sovereignty
What might we rely on, instead, to guide us forward, in these times of accelerating trouble and possibility?
Valid authority rests in the people. Truly valid structures of authority are local, not centralised for reasons of efficiency and “emergency”. This must not become the generation of yet another top-down Tower of Babel. That will not solve our problems, just as similar attempts have failed to solve our problems in the past.
Ask yourself: are these Deloitte models – which are supposed to guide all the important decisions we make about the economic security and opportunity of families and the structures of our civil societies – accurate enough even to give those who employ them any edge whatsoever, say, in predicting the performance of a stock portfolio (one based on green energy, for example) over the upcoming years?
The answer is no. How do we know? Because if such accurate models existed and were implemented by a company with Deloitte’s resources and reach, Deloitte would soon have all the money.
That is never going to happen. The global economy, let alone the environment, is simply too complex to model. It is for this reason, fundamentally, that we have and require a free-market system: the free market is the best model of the environment we can generate.
Let me repeat that, with a codicil: not only is the free market the best model of the environment we can generate, it is and will remain the best model that can, in principle, ever be generated (with its widely distributed computations, constituting the totality of the choices of 7 billion people). It simply cannot be improved upon – certainly not by presumptuous power-mad utopians, who think that hiring someone mysteriously manipulating a few carefully chosen numbers and then reading the summarised output means genuine contact with the reality of the future and the generation of knowledge unassailable on both the ethical and the practical front.
The impact of delusional thinking
Why is this a problem? Why should you care? Well, the saviours at Deloitte admit that there will be a short-term cost to implementing their cure (net-zero emissions by 2050, an utterly preposterous and inexcusable goal, both practically and conceptually). This, by the way, is a goal identical to that adopted last week by the delusional leaders of Australia, which additionally committed that resource-dependent-and-productive country to an over 40 per cent decrease by 2005 standards in “greenhouse gas emission” within the impossible timeframe of eight years. This will devastate Australia.
Here is the confession, couched in bureaucratic double-speak, from the Deloitte consultants: “During the initial stages the combined cost of the upfront investments in decarbonization, coupled with the already locked-in damages of climate change would temporarily lower economic activity, compared to the current emissions-intensive path.”
The omniscient planners then attempt to justify this, with the standard empty threats and promises (the suffering is certain, the benefits ethereal): “those most exposed to the economic damages of unchecked climate change would also have the most to gain from embracing a low-emissions future.” Really? Tell that to the African and Indian populations in the developing world lifted from poverty by coal and natural gas.
And think – really think – about this statement: “Existing industries would be reconstituted as a series of complex, interconnected, emissions-free energy systems: energy, mobility, industry, manufacturing, food and land use, and negative emissions.”
That sounds difficult, don’t you think? To rebuild everything at once and better? Without breaking everything? Fixing everything in a few decades in a panicked rush while demonising anyone who dares object?
And what will it take to do so? Here’s the most alarming part: nothing more than “a coordinated transition” that “will require governments, along with the financial services and technology sectors to catalyze, facilitate and accelerate progress; foster information flows across systems; and align individual incentives with collective goals.”
A clearer statement of totalitarian inclination could hardly be penned.
Certain outcomes versus predicted outcomes
The one thing the Deloitte models guarantee is that if we do what they recommend we will definitely be poorer than we would have been otherwise for an indefinite but hypothetically transitory period.
Yet any reduction in economic output (however “temporary” and “necessary”) will be purchased at the cost of the lives of those who are barely making it now. Period.
Have you noticed that food has become more expensive? That housing has become more expensive? That energy is more expensive? That many consumer goods are simply unavailable? Can you not see that this is going to get worse, if the Deloitte-style moralists have their way? How much “short-term pain” are you going to be required to sustain? Decades worth? All your life, and the life of your children?
It’s very likely. For your own benefit. Remember that.
All this painful privation is not only not going to save the planet, it’s going to make it far worse.
I worked for a UN subcommittee that helped prepare the 2012 report to the Secretary-General on sustainable development. Whether or not it was a good idea to contribute to such a thing is a separate issue: I do believe at least that the report would have been much more harmful than it was without the input of the Canadian contingent. We scrubbed away several layers of utopianism and Cold-War era conceptualisation and cynicism. That was something.
I garnered a key and crucial insight from the several years’ work devoted to my contribution: I learned that the fastest and most certain pathway forward to the future we all want and need (peaceful, prosperous, beautiful) is through the economic elevation of the absolutely poor. Richer people care about “the environment” – which is, after all,outside the primary and fundamental concern of those desperate for their next meal.
Make the poor rich, and the planet will improve. Or at least get out of their way while they try to make themselves rich. Make the poor poorer – and this is the concrete plan, remember – and things will get worse, perhaps worse beyond imagining. Observe the chaos in Sri Lanka, if you need proof.
There are clearly more important priorities than costly and ineffective emergency climate change reductions. Bjorn Lomborg’s work (among others such as Marian Tupy and Matt Ridley) has demonstrated that other pressing problems could and should take political and economic priority, from the perspective of good done per dollar spent.
Money could and should be spent, for example, to ensure the current health and therefore future productivity (and environmental stewardship) of currently poor children in developing countries. How about remedying the actual world of pain and deprivation of such children rather than saving the hypothetical world, and the hypothetical world of future children, in abstraction?
Stirrings of revolt
Citizens are waking up to this. Dutch farmers and fishermen are rising up, Canadian truckers are pushing back. Such protests are spreading, and increasing in intensity. As they should.
Why? Because, Deloitte consultants, and like-minded centralists are pushing things too far. It will not produce the results they are hypothetically intending. This agenda, justified by emergency, will instead make everyone poorer, particularly those who are already poor. This use of emergency force will, instead, make the lives of the working men upon whom we all depend for our daily bread and shelter more difficult and less rewarding.
Finally, this use of emergency force will also make the “environment” worse, not better. Why? If you wreck your temporary economic havoc, to (eventually) remediate the world, those whom you sacrifice so casually in the attempt will descend into chaos. In that chaos, they will then, by necessity, turn their attention to matters of immediate survival – and in a manner that will stress and harm the complex ecosystems and economies that can only be maintained with the long-term view that prosperity and nothing else makes possible.
Critics of my view will say “we have to accept limits to growth.” Fine. Accept them. Personally. Abandon your position of planet-devouring wealthy privilege. Join an ascetic order. Graze with the cattle. Or, if that’s too much (and it probably is) then purchase an electric car, if you want one (but no diesel-powered emergency backup vehicle or electric power generator for you). Buy some stock in Tesla. That’s probably the best bet (but you don’t approve of Elon Musk, do you?). Stop flying. Stop driving, for that matter. Get on your bike, instead. In your three-piece business suit. In the winter, if you dare. I’ll splash you with icy and salty slush as I drive by, in my evil but warm Ford Bronco SUV, and help you derive the consequent delicate pleasure of your own narcissistic martyrdom.
Save the planet with your own choices. But quit demanding that the rest of us blindly follow your diktats. Quit demonising and castigating us, merely because we don’t just happily cede to you all the extant power. We’re not evil just because we don’t believe that you are omniscient. We’re not evil just because we don’t want you to assume omnipotence and omnipresence too.
There is simply no pathway forward to the green and equitable utopia that necessitates the further impoverishment of the already poor, the compulsion of the working class, or the sacrifice of economic security and opportunity on the food, energy and housing front. There is simply no pathway forward to the global utopia you hypothetically value that is dependent on force. And even if there was, what gives you the right to enforce your demands? On other sovereign citizens, equal in value to you?
An alternative solution
A better way forward would be to prioritise the problems that beset all of us on this still-green, functional and increasingly abundant planet with the requisite focus and attention demanded of a true political class, elected by the people, capable of and willing to look at everything, trying to fix where necessary, trying to maintain as much freedom and autonomy as possible, and stop simply capitalising narcissistically on the mere appearance of action, knowledge and virtue.
We should obtain true, cooperative consent from those affected – farmers, truckers, working-class people who have turned in irritated desperation to figures such as Donald Trump – and work with them, rather than forbidding them with your power or improving them so they will be finally worthy of your time and attention. Help replace dirty energy with clean, if you must, but do it on your own dime, and make sure that the results are cheap and plentiful, if you want to help the poor, and the planet.
The warning bells are ringing. Listen to them, before they turn into sirens.
We will not advance without resistance through the straits of your enforced privation. We will not allow you to steal and destroy the energy that makes our lives bearable (and that produces our food and shelter and housing and the sporadic delights of modern life) just to address your existential terror (particularly when it will fail to do so in any case). We will not allow our children to be criticised first for having the temerity to merely exist and then be deprived of the prosperous and opportunity-rich future we strived so hard to prepare for them. We remain unconvinced of your frightened and self-congratulatory moralising and intellectual pretension, ignorance of the limits of statistics, and misuse of arithmetic.
We do not believe, finally and most absolutely, that your declared emergency and the panic you sow because of it means that you should now be ceded all necessary authority.
So leave us alone, you centralisers; you worshippers of Gaia; you sacrificers of the wealth and property of others; you would-be planetary saviours; you Machievellian pretenders and virtue-signallers, objecting to power, all the while you gather it around you madly.
Leave us alone, to prosper or not, as a result of our own choices; as a result of our own actions; in the exercise of our own requisite and irreducible responsibility.
Leave us alone. Or reap the whirlwind. And watch the terrible destruction of what you purport to save, in consequence.
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Post by vintagecomics on Oct 17, 2022 11:05:03 GMT -8
tldr
Peterson's tour de force essay is a blasting opposition at the globalist agenda, wokism and ESG.
MOST of the world's largest corporations are working towards a hypothetical and abstract global eutopia by centralizing and unifying globalists into an agenda that is dependent on force and authority at the expense of the poor.
By disarming the general public of ways to oppose them they are pushing their agenda through and more importantly, in pursuit of this hypothetical eutopia the real world consequences are a sacrifice of the poor and anyone that stands in the way.
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Post by vintagecomics on Oct 17, 2022 11:16:22 GMT -8
The reason I brought this discussion back from the Canada / Authoritarian thread is because it's now easy to see that the World Economic Forum / Great Reset agenda is a CONCERTED effort It's not just a fringe plan. It's not a conspiracy theory. It is a GLOBAL EFFORT that is happening IN CONCERT, with an attempt IN EVERY COUNTRY AT THE SAME TIME, to transform government, societal values, economies and anything else that stands in the way of this agenda. All of these corporations work TOGETHER through the World Economic Forum with one end goal in site. ------------------------------------------------- Here is one small example of Pfizer and Deloitte working together: An RPA Customer Story: Pfizer sponsored by DeloitteCaleb Longenberger, Principal Ops Transformation at Deloitte Consulting LLP and Terry Wright, VP Finance Shared Services at Pfizer talk about their transformation journey and how they scaled their RPA quickly following an in-depth pilot program. Sponsored by Deloitte.
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Post by vintagecomics on Oct 17, 2022 11:24:45 GMT -8
I don't think it's insignificant that Peter Sloly, who was recruited by Deloitte, the largest professional service network in the world and one of the big 4 World global accounting companies and 3rd largest privately owned company in the US to be Chief of Police in Ottawa, Canada's capital city. And it was one one month before the pandemic outbreak and he quick LITERALLY THE DAY AFTER A WAR MEASURES ACT was instituted by our Prime Minister. The instituting of the War Act is significant, NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT IS NOW EVIDENT THAT IT WAS NOT EVEN NEEDED but because the Prime Minister and his Deputy Prime Minister Christia Freeland (ex Finance minister) both have stated that they want to make measures of the Emergency (War) Measures Act permanent. Canada wants to make financial aspects of Emergencies Act permanent
Canada’s Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland wants to make permanent the invasive financial surveillance system introduced as part of the “Emergencies Act” to end the anti-mandate protests.
Freeland had announced the initial powers earlier this week to freeze the bank accounts of those who support the protests. --------------------- Freeland explained: “The government is issuing an order with immediate effect under the Emergencies Act, authorizing Canadian financial institutions to temporarily cease providing financial services where the institution suspects that an account is being used to further the illegal blockades and occupations. This order covers both personal and corporate accounts.” But now, Freeland has announced that she plans to make some of the emergency measures permanent.
The government also intends to introduce new legislation to make new authorities for FINTRAC.
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Post by vintagecomics on Nov 24, 2022 15:37:09 GMT -8
It is well established that ESG principles create a much more stable investing environment for large corporate investments.
That's why countries are constricting freedoms to a degree unprecedented in modern society.
The less democratic freedom you have, the more closely they can control the economy.
So it should not surprise you that the same Western countries that united for the battle against Covid-19 are also united in favor of The Great Reset.
The next step is a digital currency and outlawing cash. This will allow them to control every aspect of the economy through digital means.
Far fetched, you say?
Did you know in some countries it's now ILLEGAL to use cash for purchases as low as $2000?
Did you notice that since the pandemic many businesses no longer take cash?
That's why this is next:
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Post by kav on Dec 7, 2022 19:08:32 GMT -8
“Vanguard realized their entire business model could be at stake if they didn’t stop coordinating with other members to drive up energy costs,” Consumers’ Research Executive Director Will Hild, whose organization also filed a motion with the agency, remarked in a statement provided to The Daily Wire. “We’ve struck a serious blow to the anti-consumer ESG agenda and we are going to keep fighting until these asset managers and banks get back to fulfilling their fiduciary duties and stop playing politics with other people’s money.”
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 7, 2022 19:28:24 GMT -8
“Vanguard realized their entire business model could be at stake if they didn’t stop coordinating with other members to drive up energy costs,” Consumers’ Research Executive Director Will Hild, whose organization also filed a motion with the agency, remarked in a statement provided to The Daily Wire. “We’ve struck a serious blow to the anti-consumer ESG agenda and we are going to keep fighting until these asset managers and banks get back to fulfilling their fiduciary duties and stop playing politics with other people’s money.” The pattern that has emerged over the last few years is that the Liberal / Woke agenda doesn't think things through to their logical conclusions. Pandemic? Force everyone to comply for 'the greater good' Climate? Force everyone to comply for the 'greater good' Economy? Force everyone to comply for the 'greater good' Equality? Force everyone to comply for the 'greater good' But pick a topic - any topic - and eventually, it all ends up actually being counter productive to 'the greater good' and can be proven in every example. In fact it always ends up having the opposite effect. The reason is obvious. It has to happen freely. Bret Weinstein and Jordan Peterson posited in a Joe Rogan podcast a few years ago that people's biology has great effect to predisposing them to their political beliefs. You can argue that their biology also predisposes them to how they make decisions, and the left seem to be far more emotional and less willing or able to think through to the logical conclusion or consequences of their decision making process whereas the right seems to do it more often. That's been my experience to date.
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Post by kav on Dec 7, 2022 19:34:27 GMT -8
“Vanguard realized their entire business model could be at stake if they didn’t stop coordinating with other members to drive up energy costs,” Consumers’ Research Executive Director Will Hild, whose organization also filed a motion with the agency, remarked in a statement provided to The Daily Wire. “We’ve struck a serious blow to the anti-consumer ESG agenda and we are going to keep fighting until these asset managers and banks get back to fulfilling their fiduciary duties and stop playing politics with other people’s money.” The pattern that has emerged over the last few years is that the Liberal / Woke agenda doesn't think things through to their logical conclusions. Pandemic? Force everyone to comply for 'the greater good' Climate? Force everyone to comply for the 'greater good' Economy? Force everyone to comply for the 'greater good' Equality? Force everyone to comply for the 'greater good' But pick a topic - any topic - and eventually, it all ends up actually being counter productive to 'the greater good' and can be proven in every example. In fact it always ends up having the opposite effect. The reason is obvious. It has to happen freely. Bret Weinstein and Jordan Peterson posited in a Joe Rogan podcast a few years ago that people's biology has great effect to predisposing them to their political beliefs. You can argue that their biology also predisposes them to how they make decisions, and the left seem to be far more emotional and less willing or able to think through to the logical conclusion or consequences of their decision making process whereas the right seems to do it more often. That's been my experience to date. they constantly want to force others to live the way they think people should live. the common element with libs is they want power over others. psychologically this happens when someone feels their own life is out of control. they project. instead of fixing themselves they try to assert power over others. so, people whose lives are out of control want to tell others how to live.
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 11, 2022 19:41:39 GMT -8
israel has limited cash transactions to $1700
Other countries have similar limits.
Now the European Union has agreed to do so.
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 13, 2022 18:39:26 GMT -8
For those that have been following what's happening in the world very closely, it's now easy to see that ESG has been the PRIMARY motivation for most political decisions around the world.
Climate change laws, economic reform, suppression of personal freedoms like personal autonomy and freedom of speech, heightened surveillance and increased tracking of the general public, digital tracking, digital currency, reduction in mobility and even government overreach only to double back after overreach have ALL been working in one direction under the guise of 'doing good' and 'greater good' but with the real goal of a better investment culture for the largest corporations.
These are all leading towards a 'social credit system' - not necessarily a formal one that all countries unify in, but in a general sense a more confined and tightly controlled system of governance that spies on more and more of your personal life and allows you less personal freedom and individual autonomy.
And if the government sees fit, it can seize or confine you in any way they choose:
Turn off your digital money. Turn off your digital car. Track your digital whereabouts.
The WHO's worldwide Pandemic treaty is just such a thing.
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