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Post by Prince Namor on Jan 26, 2022 6:12:47 GMT -8
Which point do you want to discuss first?
Ivermectin? One of the safest drugs in the world.
When taken properly, there have been 3.74 BILLION administered doses with only 5800 adverse effects...out of almost 4 BILLION doses.
If someone takes too much aspirin it becomes dangerous. Does that make aspirin dangerous?
If someone takes too much of anything it's not good for ou.
Pick a point and let's stick to it rather than throw everything at the wall and then see what sticks.
a) It's unproven that it treats co-vid 19 b) the drug is primarily created in dosage for animals, and, because of the misinformation out there, people may seek it out in ways that are not through a physician. That dosage is highly concentrated for large animals and could be toxic to humans. c) the research on Ivermectin safeness doesn't take into account its use with other medications. Once again, people are using it in a non-prescribed way, and that could, mixed with other medications cause unsafe or life-threatening conditions. The FDA says no, to its use of it for co-vid 19. And a news source I find much less compromised than american sources said this: www.bbc.com/news/health-58170809In other words: based on my small amount of research I would NEVER think of using this drug as treatment for co-vid 19 and it is IRRESPONSIBLE for the media personalities who are promoting it to do so. ESPECIALLY from the kooks who are promoting it. There is NOTHING that I have found that would make this a topic that needs discussing further. Why are you still accepting this as some kind of alternative? |
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Post by Prince Namor on Jan 26, 2022 6:29:38 GMT -8
We know that the nostrils hold the viral load - Fauci has stated it multiple times
The Covid protein is oil based from what I understand, so it makes sense that any solvent that can break down oils will break down the spike protein.
I can't comment in detail on the mouthwash as it's new to me, but if soap kills Covid on contact, and hand sanitizer kills covid on contact then the right mouthwash will likely kill Covid on contact.
I assume it depends on what is in the mouthwash - it would need a solvent that breaks down oil.
From what little I heard, the 'mouthwash' is actually a specific type of spray used as a mist into the nostrils.
So based on what I wrote above, why wouldn't the right mouthwash work?
Really? You really just wrote this? First of all... you're very quick to jump on Fauci or the CDC changing their stance on something, even though they are dealing with a virus that they didn't have all the information on originally, and obviously had to make adjustments as time went on, but then... you so readily accept this pseudo-science... even after it's been proven wrong... or just plain SILLY. I don't know of anyone who uses a mouthwash for their nostrils, but... Salivary glands and the throat are hotspots for virus reproduction. But they are NOT the primary targets for covid infection. So if people are pouring mouthwash in their nose... What is wrong with these people? My god, even Johnson & Johnson, the makers of Listerine, who could've made a FORTUNE just by staying quiet on the matter, issued a statement downplaying its use. You want credibility for your cause... people recommending this doesn't help. It makes them look silly. |
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Post by Prince Namor on Jan 26, 2022 6:43:28 GMT -8
I'm not sure if you actually trust the CDC/FDA/Fauci or you're posting this as an example of gaslighting.
Did you read it? Much of what he says is discredited.
Did you see my post in the Coronavirus thread about how 3 DOD employee whistleblowers (their names have been made public) are ready to testify under oath that the CDC/FDA/Fauci have been misleading the public with vaccine statistics and that the statistics have even been doctored internally within the DOD?
That's some pretty damning stuff.
And NONE of it is being given any screen time on MSM?
Shouldn't that be a headline?
It would be if any of it was true. Odds are its more BS from Senator Johnson who is a master of repeating BS so that people believe it without any proof. That people are repeating it on the Internet, despite not one single source that I have found anywhere to substantiate it is very telling. Maybe they eventually will, but so far I've found nothing.
The idea that you're presenting this as fact - REPEATING his misinformation - and thus far it is only misinformation if a liar like he is presents it without verification - plays right into the hands of propaganda manipulation. You are the TOOL of information manipulators.
You even repeated information FROM his mysterious report that no one else has seen, regarding miscarriages and other boogie man, fear mongering statistics (a blatant tactic of these people) as if it were verified information!!!
Shame on you Roy.
As someone who preaches daily about truth in information, you should know better.
The deeper you go down the rabbit hole, the more it looks like the media is a propaganda arm of the authorities and nothing more. They only show you what they want to show you.
I know you say you're new to all of this... do you know the concept of 'Inventing Conflicts of Interests'? If you're truly doing this because you want the TRUTH and want to understand how it's used against us, BY ALL SIDES, it helps to have an understanding of the weapons used. I'm going to find some information for you on it to read... |
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Post by Prince Namor on Jan 26, 2022 6:51:55 GMT -8
Here it is. Back in the days when people still weren't sure if smoking caused lung disease and cancer... wait, did you know that once there was a SERIOUS debate in American Society on if smoking caused lung disease and cancer? There was! But, how? Doesn't it just make sense? Not when propagandists use what's called 'Inventing Conflicts of Interest'. Here's a taste: "The tobacco industry's program to engineer the science relating to the harms caused by cigarettes marked a watershed in the history of the industry. It moved aggressively into a new domain, the production of scientific knowledge, not for purposes of research and development but, rather, to undo what was now known: that cigarette smoking caused lethal disease. If science had historically been dedicated to the making of new facts, the industry campaign now sought to develop specific strategies to “unmake” a scientific fact."If you are SERIOUS about the TRUTH, as you say, and you're not just trying to push an agenda... this is a very important study for you to read. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3490543/ |
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 26, 2022 8:59:22 GMT -8
Which point do you want to discuss first?
Ivermectin? One of the safest drugs in the world.
When taken properly, there have been 3.74 BILLION administered doses with only 5800 adverse effects...out of almost 4 BILLION doses.
If someone takes too much aspirin it becomes dangerous. Does that make aspirin dangerous?
If someone takes too much of anything it's not good for ou.
Pick a point and let's stick to it rather than throw everything at the wall and then see what sticks.
a) It's unproven that it treats co-vid 19 b) the drug is primarily created in dosage for animals, and, because of the misinformation out there, people may seek it out in ways that are not through a physician. That dosage is highly concentrated for large animals and could be toxic to humans. c) the research on Ivermectin safeness doesn't take into account its use with other medications. Once again, people are using it in a non-prescribed way, and that could, mixed with other medications cause unsafe or life-threatening conditions. The FDA says no, to its use of it for co-vid 19. And a news source I find much less compromised than american sources said this: www.bbc.com/news/health-58170809In other words: based on my small amount of research I would NEVER think of using this drug as treatment for co-vid 19 and it is IRRESPONSIBLE for the media personalities who are promoting it to do so. ESPECIALLY from the kooks who are promoting it. There is NOTHING that I have found that would make this a topic that needs discussing further. Why are you still accepting this as some kind of alternative? a) There is suppression of information going on, just like China has been obfuscating the lab leak theory making full conclusions difficult. This is well documented with Ivermectin for those who want to follow the actual information.
There was a massive meta-study that has been talked about extensively that concluded that it was effective and that meta study took a massive hit by the media There was a fraudulent study within the meta study that corrupted it but what the media didn't report was that once you removed that fraudulent study, the meta study still showed a large benefit from Ivermectin.
There have been some randomized clinical trials showing benefit as well.
The largest of the clinical trials is the Oxford PRINCIPLE study, which has been going on since June of 2021 (why the heck someone wouldn't want a trial sooner is beyond me) and has been very strange in the sense that it seems to keep getting delayed. The trail was STOPPED because they said they ran out of Ivermectin in Dec 2021.
That they ran out of Ivermectin is ridiculous because it's readily available from countries like India, who handed Ivermectin out to 100's of millions of people. I can order it right now.
The PRINCIPLE trials being delayed caused an outrage among doctors because
1) IVM is readily available and
2) after 6 months, THEY STILL HAVE NOT CONCLUDED THESE TRIALS during a time when an outcome is of grave importance. The vaccine trials were done in 2 months. So how is it that an IVM trial, 6 months in keeps getting stalled???
Finally, like the lab leak, the most telling thing about IVM is the constant delays, obfuscation of information, media twists, media misinformation with a co-ordinated campaign to call it a 'horse drug' and lack of co-operation within the medical community.
Did you know that Merck who owned the patent on Ivermectin and administered it nearly 4 billions times declared the drug as 'unsafe' for treatment on Covid after they got a $361 MIL grant for the US to find a 'cure for Covid'?
Like the lab leak, there are FAR too many shady things going on with IVM.
b) Are you sure it's a veterinary drug? It's been administered nearly 4 billion times worldwide IN HUMANS and there are only 5800 adverse reported effects. Do you want me to get sources or can you accept that it's a human drug and accept those statistics?
If it's not a human drug why is it listed on the NIH website???
Also, in regions that Ivermectin has been used worldwide, Covid has not spread to the same degree that it has spread in the civilized world. Nobody is talking about that. Why? India has 4 times the population of the US, much denser population, much worse health care systems, an extremely low vaccination rate (not that vaccines stop the spread of the disease  ) and they have a fraction of the infections. Why is that?
c) you're veering off into a territory that is a conversation on it's own and we can't move forward until we discuss the fact that Fauci has lied, Walensky have lied and that there is controversy going on within the CDC / FDA and NIH.
There is political pressure on the FDA, so much so that the deputy Director and Director of Vaccine assessment in the FDA, the top two senior people responsible for approving vaccines who have been there for decades, RESIGNED IN PROTEST due to political pressure on them.
If you can't agree that there is controversy within those organizations, we can't move forward until we discuss that because those are the key organizations that are influencing the flow of information and fact checking worldwide.
As the US goes, so goes the world.
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 26, 2022 9:02:47 GMT -8
Here it is. Back in the days when people still weren't sure if smoking caused lung disease and cancer... wait, did you know that once there was a SERIOUS debate in American Society on if smoking caused lung disease and cancer? There was! But, how? Doesn't it just make sense? Not when propagandists use what's called 'Inventing Conflicts of Interest'. Here's a taste: "The tobacco industry's program to engineer the science relating to the harms caused by cigarettes marked a watershed in the history of the industry. It moved aggressively into a new domain, the production of scientific knowledge, not for purposes of research and development but, rather, to undo what was now known: that cigarette smoking caused lethal disease. If science had historically been dedicated to the making of new facts, the industry campaign now sought to develop specific strategies to “unmake” a scientific fact."If you are SERIOUS about the TRUTH, as you say, and you're not just trying to push an agenda... this is a very important study for you to read. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3490543/I'm well aware of the controversy and science within the tobacco industry.
Are you aware that the knife cuts both ways, and that the corruption can come from either / any side?
There are serious allegations being levelled at people involved at the CDC/ FDA / NIH and Fauci they are coming from some of the highest places - from within the military, other respected scholars and from their own internal communication.
You are assuming these organizations are free of fraud. The evidence mounting is showing that they are not.
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 26, 2022 9:55:15 GMT -8
A) Did you read it? Much of what he says is discredited.
B) It would be if any of it was true. Odds are its more BS from Senator Johnson who is a master of repeating BS so that people believe it without any proof. That people are repeating it on the Internet, despite not one single source that I have found anywhere to substantiate it is very telling. Maybe they eventually will, but so far I've found nothing.
The idea that you're presenting this as fact - REPEATING his misinformation - and thus far it is only misinformation if a liar like he is presents it without verification - plays right into the hands of propaganda manipulation. You are the TOOL of information manipulators.
You even repeated information FROM his mysterious report that no one else has seen, regarding miscarriages and other boogie man, fear mongering statistics (a blatant tactic of these people) as if it were verified information!!!
Shame on you Roy.
As someone who preaches daily about truth in information, you should know better.
C) I know you say you're new to all of this... do you know the concept of 'Inventing Conflicts of Interests'? If you're truly doing this because you want the TRUTH and want to understand how it's used against us, BY ALL SIDES, it helps to have an understanding of the weapons used. I'm going to find some information for you on it to read...
A) Man, you continue to throw a LOT at me and then ask me for detailed replies. This format makes it very difficult...and then you use Yahoo to discredit a scientist. Really???
WHICH part of the article would you like me to reply to?
He WAS involved in the earliest parts of mRNA vaccine development and the article even calls him a 'brilliant scientist' but how much credit he deserves is like discussing whether someone deserves credit for inventing a wheel barrow after inventing the wheel.
The article has a lot of emotional 'mush' to it that has nothing to do with discrediting him and a lot to just push vaccines. Typical Washington Post mush.
There is misinformation even within that article when it states that 'unvaccinated people are filling up hospitals' but locally, 1/2 to 3/4 of people in ICU / hospitals with Covid are fully vaccinated here in Ontario and from what I understand that is the case nearly everywhere so the article itself is full of propaganda and not facts.
This is important because removing the fact that the vaccines are not working as advertised is the entire basis of Malone's point.
There is DEFINITELY some sort of hypnosis going on because people are divided 50/50 down the middle and each side is 100% convinced that the other side is 100% wrong. That it's statistically impossible for one side to be fully correct seems to be lost on everyone.
So I'm not sure what you want to address specifically, but we really need to scale this down...and using Yahoo articles to have a discussion about the science is really not the way to go IMO.
B) Can we stop with the melodrama and politics?
I am reporting something that came out of a panel yesterday.
That panel had a lawyer who is representing 3 military WHISTLE BLOWERS from the DOD (not some insignificant organization) WHO HAVE BEEN NAMED PUBLICLY who are willing to go on record and state under threat of purgery that the officials involved in the pandemic response are doctoring evidence.
That is an EFFING STAGGERING accusation. It's Eric Snowden level  e.
That is not 'some mysterious report' and if it becomes discredited then so be it but IT IS WORTH TALKING ABOUT.
C) I am not 'new to information' or debates.
I am new to understanding how divided American politics are. You are now spreading misinformation about me. Quote me directly and stop putting words in my mouth.
You've accused me of saying the lab leak was the factual theory when I only stated it was now the preferred one.
You've stated that IVM was primarily an animal drug which I've proven to be not true.
You've accused me with an agenda when I have supported BOTH SIDE OF THE FENCE in this pandemic response
And you haven't admitted to being wrong once.
Finally, you've spread misinformation in your few posts here that I've shown to be false. You need to take it down a level, leave out the politics and stick to the facts.
I'm not political. I've NEVER been political. I will never be political.
Just the facts.
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 26, 2022 10:00:54 GMT -8
I have a question for everyone reading that nobody has been able to answer.
How is it that all of these scholars, doctors, scientists etc like Pierre Kory (who I believe is responsible for coming up with steroid treatment for Covid-19), Malone, McCollough, etc WHERE ALL HIGHLY RESPECTED AND TRUSTED UNTIL THEY DISAGREED WITH THE MAINSTREAM NARRATIVE?
These people have impeccable records, worked with the highest levels of education, research, government and authority for decades and are now being portrayed as complete quacks.
Can anyone answer me that?
@prince Namor - if you put the same scrutiny towards this discussion that you put on the Ditko/Lee debate, you'd probably have a different opinion, only in this case the authorities are Stan Lee and the resistance is Steve Ditko.  |
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 26, 2022 10:25:10 GMT -8
I'm going to go on record and state one more thing.
I DO believe the parallels between medical experimentation during WW2 and now have some validity.
We are basically FORCING people under threat of loss of jobs, loss of personal freedoms and even loss of health care unrelated to Covid-19 to take a drug that
1) has not been proven to be safe over short or long term - there is evidence emerging DAILY on how it is less safe than we thought and some of the evidence is staggering (J+J anybody?)
2) does not work as advertised - they do not stop transmission, reinfection or keep people out of hospitals
3) there is no full transparency on the data from the trials - that's why there is a court order to release Pfizer's data
4) people who DON'T NEED IT ARE BEING COERCED. If you've been previously infected it is now PROVEN that you are better protected than the vaccine can offer.
5) finally and most importantly, you are being forced to take a drug from which you have NO LIABILITY OR RECOURSE if something goes wrong.
This is the biggest one. If the vaccines were SO SAFE why will neither the drug companies NOR the governments take some sort of liability for them?
In which world is this acceptable?
To me what is happening is criminal and absurd based on all the facts above.
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Post by Prince Namor on Jan 26, 2022 19:49:37 GMT -8
a) It's unproven that it treats co-vid 19 www.bbc.com/news/health-58170809In other words: based on my small amount of research I would NEVER think of using this drug as treatment for co-vid 19 and it is IRRESPONSIBLE for the media personalities who are promoting it to do so. ESPECIALLY from the kooks who are promoting it. There is NOTHING that I have found that would make this a topic that needs discussing further. Why are you still accepting this as some kind of alternative? a) There is suppression of information going on, just like China has been obfuscating the lab leak theory making full conclusions difficult. This is well documented with Ivermectin for those who want to follow the actual information.
There was a massive meta-study that has been talked about extensively that concluded that it was effective and that meta study took a massive hit by the media There was a fraudulent study within the meta study that corrupted it but what the media didn't report was that once you removed that fraudulent study, the meta study still showed a large benefit from Ivermectin.
By who? Everything I've read from the rest of the world says it's NOT sufficient to continue research. (See below) There have been some randomized clinical trials showing benefit as well.
By who? Every one I've read about says NO. (See below)
The largest of the clinical trials is the Oxford PRINCIPLE study, which has been going on since June of 2021 (why the heck someone wouldn't want a trial sooner is beyond me) and has been very strange in the sense that it seems to keep getting delayed. The trail was STOPPED because they said they ran out of Ivermectin in Dec 2021.
That they ran out of Ivermectin is ridiculous because it's readily available from countries like India, who handed Ivermectin out to 100's of millions of people. I can order it right now.The PRINCIPLE trials being delayed caused an outrage among doctors because 1) IVM is readily available and
2) after 6 months, THEY STILL HAVE NOT CONCLUDED THESE TRIALS during a time when an outcome is of grave importance. The vaccine trials were done in 2 months. So how is it that an IVM trial, 6 months in keeps getting stalled???
Finally, like the lab leak, the most telling thing about IVM is the constant delays, obfuscation of information, media twists, media misinformation with a co-ordinated campaign to call it a 'horse drug' and lack of co-operation within the medical community.
Did you know that Merck who owned the patent on Ivermectin and administered it nearly 4 billions times declared the drug as 'unsafe' for treatment on Covid after they got a $361 MIL grant for the US to find a 'cure for Covid'? Like the lab leak, there are FAR too many shady things going on with IVM.
So Merck signs a deal with the US Government to supply its experimental Co-vid 19 treatment in December of 2020
www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-merck-co/merck-signs-356-million-u-s-supply-deal-for-its-experimental-covid-19-treatment-idUSKBN28X1FX
The people who claim that Ivermectin cures Co-vid 19 want to know WHY they aren't recommending Ivermectin as a cure.
In February 2021, Merck, the developer of the drug, issues a statement saying that there is no good evidence ivermectin is effective against COVID‑19, and that attempting such use may be unsafe.
And of course the people who claim that Ivermectin cures Co-vid 19, automatically assume it MUST be foul play at hand.
Even though....
After reviewing the evidence on ivermectin, the European Medicines Agency (EMA) advised against its use for prevention or treatment of COVID‑19 and that "the available data do not support its use for COVID‑19 outside well-designed clinical trials."
www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-advises-against-use-ivermectin-prevention-treatment-covid-19-outside-randomised-clinical-trials
and...
The U.S. National Institutes of Health COVID‑19 Treatment Guidelines state that there is insufficient evidence for ivermectin to allow for a recommendation for or against its use.
www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ivermectin/
and...
In the United Kingdom, the national COVID‑19 Therapeutics Advisory Panel determined that the evidence base and plausibility of ivermectin as a COVID‑19 treatment were insufficient to pursue further investigations.
www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n747
and quote from it:
Caroline Wood, spokesperson for the UK’s RECOVERY trial, told The BMJ that the UK COVID-19 Therapeutics Advisory Panel—the independent panel of experts that recommends what treatments should be proposed for testing through the various UK platform trials10—were unconvinced of the biological rationale for an antiviral effect. “They felt the evidence of a clinically relevant anti-inflammatory effect was weak and that the current clinical evidence and meta-analyses were not sufficiently robust to recommend ivermectin [for further study].”
Smaller randomised control trials are under way or being registered in several countries. A preprint published on 23 February by researchers in Mexico stated: “In non-critical hospitalized patients with COVID-19 pneumonia, neither ivermectin nor hydroxychloroquine decreases the number of in-hospital days, respiratory deterioration, or deaths.”11 And a small double blind, randomised control trial in Colombia done between July and November 2020 and published in March found that the duration of symptoms was not significantly different compared with the placebo for patients with mild covid-19 symptoms given a five day course of ivermectin at 10 times the recommended dose.
and... for our Spanish speaking readers:
The Brazilian Health Regulatory Agency, Brazilian Society of Infectious Diseases, and Brazilian Thoracic Society issued position statements advising against the use of ivermectin for prevention or treatment of early-stage COVID‑19.
pebmed.com.br/anvisa-se-manifesta-contra-o-uso-da-ivermectina-na-covid-19/
Did THEY all get a deal from the U.S. government too?
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Post by Prince Namor on Jan 26, 2022 19:58:53 GMT -8
Also, in regions that Ivermectin has been used worldwide, Covid has not spread to the same degree that it has spread in the civilized world. Nobody is talking about that. Why? India has 4 times the population of the US, much denser population, much worse health care systems, an extremely low vaccination rate (not that vaccines stop the spread of the disease  ) and they have a fraction of the infections. Why is that?
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Post by Prince Namor on Jan 26, 2022 20:31:21 GMT -8
There is political pressure on the FDA, so much so that the deputy Director and Director of Vaccine assessment in the FDA, the top two senior people responsible for approving vaccines who have been there for decades, RESIGNED IN PROTEST due to political pressure on them.
What pressure? To try and address the issue of Co-vid as quickly as possible? That IS pressure. How is that relevant to your cause? Because it looks suspicious to you? That's vague.
If you can't agree that there is controversy within those organizations, we can't move forward until we discuss that because those are the key organizations that are influencing the flow of information and fact checking worldwide.
As the US goes, so goes the world. Most of the rest of the world could give two s about what it is the U.S. wants. |
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Post by Prince Namor on Jan 26, 2022 20:34:58 GMT -8
And really, you're whole thing about Fauci changing his story on masks... do you not understand WHY? Are you being facetious or do you really not understand WHY there was a change in his stance on it?
From CNN:
While Fauci, along with several other US health leaders, initially advised people not to wear masks, Fauci later said that he was concerned that there wouldn’t be enough protective equipment for health care workers. This was also early in the pandemic before public health experts fully knew how contagious the disease was and how it spread.
Fauci explained that at that time, “we were not aware that 40 to 45% of people were asymptomatic, nor were we aware that a substantial proportion of people who get infected get infected from people who are without symptoms. That makes it overwhelmingly important for everyone to wear a mask.”
“So when people say, ‘Well, why did you change your stance? And why are you emphasizing masks so much now when back then you didn't -- and in fact you even said you shouldn't because there was a shortage of masks?’ Well the data now are very, very clear,” he said.
“We need to put that nonsense behind us about ‘well, they keep changing their minds,’ ” Fauci said.
As to Fauci’s other comments, while he occasionally sought to reassure Americans in the very early days of the virus, he consistently advised to follow CDC guidelines and that things could change.
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Post by Prince Namor on Jan 26, 2022 20:44:19 GMT -8
B) Can we stop with the melodrama and politics?
I didn't mention any politics at all. What are you talking about. I called him a Senator. He IS a Senator.
I am reporting something that came out of a panel yesterday.
That panel had a lawyer who is representing 3 military WHISTLE BLOWERS from the DOD (not some insignificant organization) WHO HAVE BEEN NAMED PUBLICLY who are willing to go on record and state under threat of purgery that the officials involved in the pandemic response are doctoring evidence.
That is an EFFING STAGGERING accusation. It's Eric Snowden level e.
That is not 'some mysterious report' and if it becomes discredited then so be it but IT IS WORTH TALKING ABOUT. Where's the Report? It's not 'Eric Snowden level e' until there actually IS a report. So far we've seen NOTHING. Just a lot of TALK.
This is the essence of Propaganda. Big show. But nothing to show.
If they HAD something - they would've SHOWN it.
Instead it's the old trick - I've got something behind this door! It's going to blow the lid off of this! You'll see!
And then we never see it, but it gets everyone riled up.
I'm not riled.
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Post by Prince Namor on Jan 26, 2022 21:14:43 GMT -8
C) I am not 'new to information' or debates.
I am new to understanding how divided American politics are. You are now spreading misinformation about me. Quote me directly and stop putting words in my mouth.
You've accused me of saying the lab leak was the factual theory when I only stated it was now the preferred one.
Your exact quote from this thread on Jan 15th, was "..and now is looking to be the prominent theory for the origin of the lab leak theory."
Which is FALSE, by the way. It's BELIEVED by a large amount of people because of all of the misinformation repeated ad naseum, but the vast majority of government organizations who've investigated it say NO.
I replied: "You've also stated that the 'lab leak theory' is commonly regarded now as fact".
You're right. You never said it was FACT. You only alluded to it.
You've stated that IVM was primarily an animal drug which I've proven to be not true.
No. I said: "the drug is primarily created in dosage for animals, and, because of the misinformation out there, people may seek it out in ways that are not through a physician. That dosage is highly concentrated for large animals and could be toxic to humans."
You've accused me with an agenda when I have supported BOTH SIDE OF THE FENCE in this pandemic response
Example?
And you haven't admitted to being wrong once.
I just did.
Finally, you've spread misinformation in your few posts here that I've shown to be false. You need to take it down a level, leave out the politics and stick to the facts. Where did I spread misinformation?
I'm not political. I've NEVER been political. I will never be political.
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) and they have a fraction of the infections. Why is that?
e. 
That's not a lie?
