CGC Shaken Comic Syndrome (SCS) Damage

Ditch Fahrenheit TCBF Member Joined: April 2013 Posts: 15,596	CGC Shaken Comic Syndrome (SCS) Damage Mar 9, 2019 17:59:46 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Mar 9, 2019 17:59:46 GMT -8 link Three books, all Chris Pedrin’s Big five Information Guide #1. CGC 9.2, CGC 9.4 and CGC 9.6 9.2 9.4 9.6
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CGC Shaken Comic Syndrome (SCS) Damage Mar 9, 2019 18:00:21 GMT -8

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Good morning everyone,

I recently purchased Hulk 181 CGC 9.8 for $14,500.00 , i was really pleased since it seemed like a great price. I got the book and noticed a crease on the back cover.

My question is: Should i keep it or return it? The OCD is killing me, but i doubt i will ever again get this book for this price.

Any advice will help.

Thanks

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CGC Shaken Comic Syndrome (SCS) Damage Mar 9, 2019 18:03:19 GMT -8

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Power Girl #2 CGC 9.8 $150 SOLD!

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Man this is the 1st time I received a slab with a slanted comic inside that after gently tapping on the comic to centre it back to the inner well i see a dreaded dent on the back cover....what should I do now? ?

... This is the 1st time i had a comic slanted outside the inner well,which to me is a manufacturing defect on their part since the package must had bounced hard enough to cause it,but the outside surface of the slab is pristine.It was perfectly centred on the sale picture of the seller,i bought it from the marketplace here in the forum. ...

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CGC Shaken Comic Syndrome (SCS) Damage Mar 9, 2019 18:05:09 GMT -8

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It seems fairly clear cut. If a comic book slides around freely inside an enclosure with hard sides then the paper will impact the harder surface. Repeatedly. Light impacts or hard impacts, depending on movement of the assembly. And shifting responsibility for movement-results to Postal Services is, well, convenient.

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Ditch Fahrenheit TCBF Member Joined: April 2013 Posts: 15,596	CGC Shaken Comic Syndrome (SCS) Damage Mar 9, 2019 18:07:41 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Mar 9, 2019 18:07:41 GMT -8 link ... New Teen Titans # 1 CGC 9.8 ... Note: I disagree that this occurred during encapsulation. This is classic SCS.

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CGC Shaken Comic Syndrome (SCS) Damage Mar 9, 2019 18:08:15 GMT -8

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3/19/18

Hello all,

I acquired the shown ASM 129, 9.8 last July. After pulling it out of the safe deposit box and scanning it, I noticed the issue seen on the upper right back cover, which appears to be a dent? in the cover now.

No need to chide me regarding this, but I honestly don't know if it was there when I bought it and I missed it, or if it has developed since then.

I have a strong feeling that attempting to sell it with this "dent" will only result in returns from unsatisfied customers claiming its not 9.8.

Book was graded May 2014.

So, if you would help:

1) What is it?.............the book is definitely moving in the holder and the mark is right were the inner well curves.....

2) I have spoken with CGC and they are basically giving me the "hand" and telling me I would have to resubmit to have a grader look at it officially (meaning they won't just take a look and tell me what happened)

3) what would you do if you were sitting on $9.5K of confusion in this situation?

Thanks for any info you can provide.

JP

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CGC Shaken Comic Syndrome (SCS) Damage Mar 9, 2019 18:09:00 GMT -8

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GanaSoth
Hello everyone. I'm new here and new to CBCS. I'm very seriously thinking about getting all my CGC comics re-slabbed by CBCS. CGC's current case is designed to destroy comics...

As many of you know, CGC has done away with the inner wells that held the comic in place. As far as I'm aware CBCS still has the inner wells correct? (Please tell me if I'm wrong.)Now all they have are two pieces of Mylar heat sealed together around the comic book, and that is encased inside the CGC slab.

This puts pressure on the comic so that you will start to see the front and rear cover stay in place as the inner pages start to move around. (Either up above the front and rear covers or down below the front and rear covers.)

To further show what I'm talking about, here are pictures of an Totally Awesome Hulk #22 9.8
You can clearly see the comic books inner pages freely move around. It doesnt even take much of a try to get them to start to shift. Once the comic gets crooked in the slab, its all over; with no inner wells, whats going to stop it?

This is the 2nd Totally Awesome Hulk 9.8 I have had with the exact same CGC Case Problem. Clearly a defective case design to allow the comic to shift inside the slab, causing who knows what kind of damage (loose covers at staples?)

Anyone else have any issues like this with the new CGC (horrible) cases?
Does CBCS still have the inner wells?

I have other comics from CGC that are starting to exhibit the exact same shifting... If anyone wants more pics I'll post them up when I get the time.

Thanks for reading, glad to be here!

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CGC Shaken Comic Syndrome (SCS) Damage Mar 9, 2019 18:09:42 GMT -8

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GanaSoth
Here is my second copy of Totally Awesome Hulk #22 9.8 with exact same CGC Slab issues.
(Looks exact, but different CGC Verification Numbers.)

Here is pics of HillBilly #1 9.8 ~~and HillBilly #2 9.8~~
Again, same CGC Slab issues of the comic book pages shifting past front and rear covers.

Here we have the hottest comic currently, and of course CGC has to throw it in their garbage slab...
You can see the inner comic pages starting to slip down below the front and rear cover.

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CGC Shaken Comic Syndrome (SCS) Damage Mar 9, 2019 18:10:40 GMT -8

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Is this shaken comic syndrome?

AJ0605

Just bought this high grade MM4 off eBay. When I got it the first thing I noticed was both staples seemed to be recessed and the paper around them is tearing. They're not completely pulled through to where you can't see them. There's also some wear in the bottom corner. Thinking about returning the book but not sure if my overreacting. Thanks.

9.6

I feel like the pictures don't show the recession all that well.

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CGC Shaken Comic Syndrome (SCS) Damage Mar 9, 2019 18:11:27 GMT -8

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Martin Boruta
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To all you folks that think encapsulation in CGC or CBCS is some kind of permanent preservation technique.

Not my book but graded August 2017. Comic shifted inside the CGC case and ripped the cover off.

This isn't an anti-slabbing post. I have a few slabs myself. Just a post for awareness that you still have to be careful and diligent with your collection.

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CGC Shaken Comic Syndrome (SCS) Damage Mar 9, 2019 18:12:11 GMT -8

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Jason McFarland
June 22 at 2:14 PM

When you get excited because a 9.8 book you have been chasing for 2 years finally comes up for auction, pay more then 5 times what it's worth then get it in the mail to find this...

Before shipment (from listing)