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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 12:13:42 GMT -8
One of the biggest mistakes CGC made...and it looks like CBCS is doing the same thing...was in ignoring the difference between newsstand copies and Direct market copies.
The conventional wisdom when CGC started in 1999 was that there was no difference between a newsstand and Direct copy, they were all worth the same, and they were all about the same in terms of population.
People knew then that that wasn't true, and history has only borne it out.
Now, they're stuck. They have a census filled with 1977-up books, which make no differentiation between the two. 85% of the time, it's not a problen...but that 15% of the time is a significant difference, highlighted by the "Batman #457 2nd print newsstand" issue.
Perhaps it was a long game to get people to resub when they finally admitted their mistake and started noting newsstand copies for all books.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 12:15:34 GMT -8
Personally, I've never liked newsstands. They look cluttered to me. I have always preferred the Direct market copies. They're clean, neat, and don't have the Curtis symbol or the title code...plus the UPC box art has always looked tidier to me.
But, I recognize that there are fans of the style, and that, because of the nature of newsstands, there are going to be fewer high grade copies of newsstands on a general basis.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 12:16:15 GMT -8
That said, it's nice to legitimately criticize these companies without worrying if I'm going to be silenced about it.
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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on Feb 27, 2017 14:06:04 GMT -8
  While I get the draw to the relative HG scarcity of the NS, I also don't care for the look. This may not be a good description, but there's something "soulless' about the look compared to the Marvel "Brand" look (Spidey, Cap, Mjolnir, etc.) of the Direct. Didn't stop me from buying many NS even though I had the same titles in my pull list. |
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Post by steveinthecity on Feb 27, 2017 23:19:17 GMT -8
I think I prefer the newsstand. I don't like the upc, but a Spidey head reminds me of a Whitman or those three packs we used to regard as reprints.
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Post by MetalPSI™ on Feb 27, 2017 23:27:09 GMT -8
Marvel Directs in the 90's came on better paper and just looked a lot nicer.
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Post by Jeffro on Feb 28, 2017 4:01:19 GMT -8
It's a shame they didn't put the UPC box on the back cover. Like that would ever have happened Actually, it's shame they had to put the box on comics at all. At least on the direct versions, instead of putting Spidey's head in the box, or whatever, they could have removed the box entirely. I guess that would have affected the printing process though. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 11:15:01 GMT -8
It's a shame they didn't put the UPC box on the back cover. Like that would ever have happened Actually, it's shame they had to put the box on comics at all. At least on the direct versions, instead of putting Spidey's head in the box, or whatever, they could have removed the box entirely. I guess that would have affected the printing process though. Not at all. There are several examples where they did exactly that:      +Batman+%23465.jpeg) Plus, Batman #427-429 had dialogue in the UPC box space. |
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Post by jaeldubyoo on Mar 2, 2017 12:03:08 GMT -8
Most of the time they don't put the box in the back is because it's advertising space.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 12:25:21 GMT -8
Most of the time they don't put the box in the back is because it's advertising space. Yes, and that ad space paid to print the book, most of the time. The cover art was expendable, the ad space most certainly not. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 12:26:13 GMT -8
It's a shame they didn't put the UPC box on the back cover. Like that would ever have happened Actually, it's shame they had to put the box on comics at all. At least on the direct versions, instead of putting Spidey's head in the box, or whatever, they could have removed the box entirely. I guess that would have affected the printing process though. Not at all. There are several examples where they did exactly that: Plus, Batman #427-429 had dialogue in the UPC box space. Bastiches ruined my post! Oh well...it was ASM #288, #295, Web #37, and....I forget, but there's a few more. |
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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on Mar 2, 2017 12:45:34 GMT -8
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Post by Jeffro on Mar 2, 2017 16:42:04 GMT -8
Most of the time they don't put the box in the back is because it's advertising space. Yes, and that ad space paid to print the book, most of the time. The cover art was expendable, the ad space most certainly not. I know. Sad, but understandable |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 7:52:12 GMT -8
Isn't it Mile High Comics who sell certain newsstand issues at significantly higher prices? Their reasoning being that a newsstand copy is rarer to find in high grade condition in comparison to the direct market copy.
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Post by 50 Fiddy on Apr 7, 2018 6:11:52 GMT -8
Isn't it Mile High Comics who sell certain newsstand issues at significantly higher prices? Their reasoning being that a newsstand copy is rarer to find in high grade condition in comparison to the direct market copy. Yes, they price them ridiculously high. |
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