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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Feb 26, 2017 11:08:58 GMT -8
This thread is for comparing CGC and CBCS realized prices.
Discussion is encouraged.
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Feb 26, 2017 11:21:55 GMT -8
This is the same book. link  Sold on HA for (includes Buyer's Premium): $77,675.00Date: August 4th-6th, 2016 Auction link  Sold on HA for (includes Buyer's Premium): $155,350.00Date: February 23rd-25th, 2017 Auction
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Post by thebrain on Feb 26, 2017 12:49:54 GMT -8
 That is quit the chunk of change there.
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Post by hado on Feb 26, 2017 13:14:09 GMT -8
Yeah.... mental note.
Don't try CBCS
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Feb 26, 2017 13:48:49 GMT -8
A couple items to note about the above AF15: 1) Stan Lee signed the last page of the book. This is noted on the Verified Signature CBCS label, but is not noted on the Universal CGC label. 2) The scans make the book look very different in each of the two auctions. 
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Post by hado on Feb 26, 2017 13:58:11 GMT -8
What do you think is causing the yellow appearance along the spine on the CBCS pic?
Is it the inner well?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 14:03:05 GMT -8
What do you think is causing the yellow appearance along the spine on the CBCS pic? Is it the inner well? Light reflection. The CGC copy has been pressed, undoubtedly by Matt Nelson.
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Feb 26, 2017 14:08:00 GMT -8
What do you think is causing the yellow appearance along the spine on the CBCS pic? Is it the inner well? I'm just spitballing, but in my opinion I think that in the case of the CBCS picture, the scanner light was redirected from parts of the case in a non-orthogonal way which highlighted the paper height differences.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 16:54:08 GMT -8
And just so everyone's on the same page...Stan's signature not being noted on the last page doesn't necessarily mean that CGC missed it.
It's possible, but not probable.
I would think that it was noted, and included in the net grade.
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Post by steveinthecity on Feb 28, 2017 4:57:51 GMT -8
Maybe there's more built in trust with CGC due to their longevity? Their scan looks better as well fwiw.
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Post by slym2none on Feb 28, 2017 19:31:33 GMT -8
So, it still sold for roughly twice as much wiithout CGC letting people know it had been signed on the last page as CBCS-graded with the signature noted?
I think that says something too, no?
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Post by 50 Fiddy on Feb 28, 2017 20:20:28 GMT -8
Wow, that's a huge difference.
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Post by jaeldubyoo on Mar 1, 2017 15:32:16 GMT -8
That is a huge difference. I'm wondering if some of it is due to timing. I'm not up with the market for AF #15, but hasn't it gone up since last summer. Plus there may be more deep pockets competing now for a higher grade AF #15. Who knows, maybe some that lost out the last time redoubled their efforts (and wallets)to secure it. But that may only account for some of the difference. Looks like CBCS has a lot of catching up to do if the difference was mainly because of the case that it's in.
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Post by 50 Fiddy on Mar 1, 2017 17:15:33 GMT -8
If the guy that bought the book in 2016 knew CGC would give that book a blue label, which I think they do for autographs on the interior pages, then it was a genius move. The book hasn't been below $100K in that grade for years. I'm surprised the "name" wasn't listed on the label. That RED unwitnessed/verified signature slab definitely hurt that book, but is it the label color or grading company that affected it more?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 20:31:20 GMT -8
That RED unwitnessed/verified signature slab definitely hurt that book, but is it the label color or grading company that affected it more? THAT is an excellent question. I don't know if it can be answered, though.
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