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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Feb 25, 2017 10:46:37 GMT -8
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Post by Bats on Feb 25, 2017 11:26:02 GMT -8
This is great news! Jay Garrick's returning Wait... did he leave!?! I'm so confused FLASHPOINT!
I was much more comfortable with the post-Crisis stuff, despite all the retcons. Bloody New 52
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Feb 25, 2017 11:28:40 GMT -8
The really dumb thing from a publishing perspective, is that if I'm confused...I don't buy...even though I'd like to.
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Post by Bats on Feb 25, 2017 11:46:41 GMT -8
The really dumb thing from a publishing perspective, is that if I'm confused...I don't buy...even though I'd like to. Yep. I understand what DC are trying to do... They're trying to right the universe again after the mess that was New 52 but it just leads to confusion. All that just to give Batman another rejuve
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 12:07:51 GMT -8
The real problem with publishers is that everything has become derivative. Instead of charting new territory, Marvel, DC, and to an extent Image and the other publishers, are simply re-hashing and re-re-hashing old storylines to appeal to their aging fanbases. Not good. Consider: what major new characters has any publisher introduced recently? Who are the most popular characters in their respective universes today? Harley? She debuted almost 24 years ago. Deadpool? Over 26 years ago. X-23? Wolverine clone...literally. When was the last time something NEW took hold of the comics industry? Walking Dead? Over 10 years ago. Chew, Thief of Thieves, 6th Gun, all pretty much flashes in the pan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 12:08:45 GMT -8
They need to create something totally new, and different, much like Alan Moore, Grant Morrison, and Neil Gaiman did in the 80's and 90's.
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Post by Bats on Feb 25, 2017 12:14:03 GMT -8
They need to create something totally new, and different, much like Alan Moore, Grant Morrison, and Neil Gaiman did in the 80's and 90's. They do! The only thing that was good about the New 52 was the introduction of the Court of Owls. That first run was very good... Although it did go downhill a bit after Batman #7.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 12:16:13 GMT -8
They need to create something totally new, and different, much like Alan Moore, Grant Morrison, and Neil Gaiman did in the 80's and 90's. They do! The only thing that was good about the New 52 was the introduction of the Court of Owls. That first run was very good... Although it did go downhill a bit after Batman #7. Alright, you rotten ! Putting Action Comics #1s all over the place!
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Feb 25, 2017 12:57:57 GMT -8
The real problem with publishers is that everything has become derivative. Instead of charting new territory, Marvel, DC, and to an extent Image and the other publishers, are simply re-hashing and re-re-hashing old storylines to appeal to their aging fanbases. Not good. Consider: what major new characters has any publisher introduced recently? Who are the most popular characters in their respective universes today? Harley? She debuted almost 24 years ago. Deadpool? Over 26 years ago. X-23? Wolverine clone...literally. When was the last time something NEW took hold of the comics industry? Walking Dead? Over 10 years ago. Chew, Thief of Thieves, 6th Gun, all pretty much flashes in the pan. Yeah, I completely agree. Even when I was a kid, if there were more than one title of a character it confused me and made me look to other characters. I like linear, sequential story progression. A few cross-overs is acceptable, but I don't want multiple story lines. As a young collector, I wanted Comic XYZ from #1 to the present. The simplicity of that encouraged me to seek out the missing issues. I'd rather investigate a new character than re-hash the old ones or put them in increasingly complicated scenarios with alternate universes, etc., etc.
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Post by Bats on Feb 25, 2017 13:14:56 GMT -8
They do! The only thing that was good about the New 52 was the introduction of the Court of Owls. That first run was very good... Although it did go downhill a bit after Batman #7. Alright, you rotten ! Putting Action Comics #1s all over the place!
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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on Feb 25, 2017 21:24:31 GMT -8
The really dumb thing from a publishing perspective, is that if I'm confused...I don't buy...even though I'd like to. Very true. Also seems pointless to really get into each rehash knowing they're likely to just pull the rug out again.
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Post by Bats on Feb 26, 2017 4:33:29 GMT -8
The really dumb thing from a publishing perspective, is that if I'm confused...I don't buy...even though I'd like to. Very true. Also seems pointless to really get into each rehash knowing they're likely to just pull the rug out again. The worst being New 52 Superman. Complete history revision. Fans didn't like it. Killed off...
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Mar 6, 2017 18:35:56 GMT -8
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Post by awakeintheashes on Mar 7, 2017 9:26:35 GMT -8
The real problem with publishers is that everything has become derivative. Instead of charting new territory, Marvel, DC, and to an extent Image and the other publishers, are simply re-hashing and re-re-hashing old storylines to appeal to their aging fanbases. Not good. Consider: what major new characters has any publisher introduced recently? Who are the most popular characters in their respective universes today? Harley? She debuted almost 24 years ago. Deadpool? Over 26 years ago. X-23? Wolverine clone...literally. When was the last time something NEW took hold of the comics industry? Walking Dead? Over 10 years ago. Chew, Thief of Thieves, 6th Gun, all pretty much flashes in the pan. Sixth Gun was such a great read. Definitely a labor of love for Cullen Bunn. Outside of the TV spec-bump nobody gave it the time of day.
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Post by steveinthecity on Mar 7, 2017 13:47:26 GMT -8
The real problem with publishers is that everything has become derivative. Instead of charting new territory, Marvel, DC, and to an extent Image and the other publishers, are simply re-hashing and re-re-hashing old storylines to appeal to their aging fanbases. Not good. Consider: what major new characters has any publisher introduced recently? Who are the most popular characters in their respective universes today? Harley? She debuted almost 24 years ago. Deadpool? Over 26 years ago. X-23? Wolverine clone...literally. When was the last time something NEW took hold of the comics industry? Walking Dead? Over 10 years ago. Chew, Thief of Thieves, 6th Gun, all pretty much flashes in the pan. I'm a big fan of Thief Of Thieves, but yeah, everything else is old and repeatedly rehashed. I wonder if that's contributed to my interest in the more kids oriented comics in the last decade. Stuff like Archie(Awesome) and newer titles like Lumberjanes and Goldie Vance. They're just fun reads. I've got a pile of JLA's from the last two years, but I won't read them because I'm missing several issues from the story arc and I don't want the headache of trying to figure stuff out.
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