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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 19:58:22 GMT -8
So, I just finished reading Walking Dead, in TPB form, #1-90. And the thing I'm left with the most is...does EVERYBODY have to die? Man, Kirkman...I get it, people are horrifying, no doubt. But everyone dies, or gets maimed, or whatever. Yeesh. Other than that, good story!  |
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Post by hado on Feb 12, 2017 21:29:19 GMT -8
I loved the beginning of that series, when the dead were still scary.
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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on Feb 13, 2017 0:17:31 GMT -8
I haven't found anyone who has read the comics/TPB and the Governor novels by Kirkman. Rise of the Governor sheds some surprising light on the character, who he is, and who he isn't.
Highly recommended. Nothing award worthy, just good zombie fun and info not available in the comics, and only barely, maybe hinted at on the show- or at least referenced.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 8:17:39 GMT -8
So, I just finished reading Walking Dead, in TPB form, #1-90. And the thing I'm left with the most is...does EVERYBODY have to die? Man, Kirkman...I get it, people are horrifying, no doubt. But everyone dies, or gets maimed, or whatever. Yeesh. Other than that, good story! Take this with an anecdotal grain of salt,'cause that's what it is... I read somewhere that Kirkman stated in an interview that his plan was to have the series end with only Rick and Carl left alive. Carl is the main character of the story, and it's how all these events affect him... Please, once again, I cannot verify the veracity of that statement and I may have (unwittingly) added to any inaccuracies; but if not - It's gonna be one torturous path to end up at the beginnings of McCarthy's Road.  |
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Post by Jeffro on Feb 13, 2017 8:20:17 GMT -8
I loved the beginning of that series, when the dead were still scary. Until you found that the living are even scarier |
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Post by awakeintheashes on Feb 15, 2017 7:02:12 GMT -8
I haven't found anyone who has read the comics/TPB and the Governor novels by Kirkman. Rise of the Governor sheds some surprising light on the character, who he is, and who he isn't. Highly recommended. Nothing award worthy, just good zombie fun and info not available in the comics, and only barely, maybe hinted at on the show- or at least referenced. +1 the Governor books really help flesh out the character. Fun reads. I was glad to see the TV show had a few hat tips to the novels with Round 2 of the Governor story. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 8:35:39 GMT -8
I'll have to check it out. Phil was bad, but at least he wasn't a cannibal.
Which isn't saying much.
By the by...was that zombie girl his daughter, or his sextoy, or both, or...?
And why was he keeping zombie heads in tanks and watching them, tv array style?
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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on Feb 15, 2017 9:12:31 GMT -8
I'll have to check it out. Phil was bad, but at least he wasn't a cannibal. Which isn't saying much. By the by...was that zombie girl his daughter, or his sextoy, or both, or...? And why was he keeping zombie heads in tanks and watching them, tv array style? It's hard to say how Kirkman's TV version of the Governor parallels with the novel version, and since the character is dead it's unlikely to be revisited in any way so the answer isn't very obvious. And to be honest there really isn't any way to answer it without spoiling anything. But the heads in the fish tanks are pretty much how he describes it on the show; they're reminders. Plus, he's nuts. |
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Post by hado on Feb 18, 2017 10:57:32 GMT -8
I read the first novel, it was good, I still haven't read Road to Woodbury.
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Post by Jeffro on Feb 18, 2017 11:01:56 GMT -8
I'll have to check it out. Phil was bad, but at least he wasn't a cannibal. Which isn't saying much. By the by...was that zombie girl his daughter, or his sextoy, or both, or...? And why was he keeping zombie heads in tanks and watching them, tv array style? It's hard to say how Kirkman's TV version of the Governor parallels with the novel version, and since the character is dead it's unlikely to be revisited in any way so the answer isn't very obvious. And to be honest there really isn't any way to answer it without spoiling anything. But the heads in the fish tanks are pretty much how he describes it on the show; they're reminders. Plus, he's nuts.That's really the only answer. He was a complete nutter |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 12:27:18 GMT -8
It's hard to say how Kirkman's TV version of the Governor parallels with the novel version, and since the character is dead it's unlikely to be revisited in any way so the answer isn't very obvious. And to be honest there really isn't any way to answer it without spoiling anything. But the heads in the fish tanks are pretty much how he describes it on the show; they're reminders. Plus, he's nuts.That's really the only answer. He was a complete nutter I'd imagine a zombie apocalypse would drive some people insane. Just look at the stress on some folks when something trivial happens, like a software change on a chat board. Imagine the impact a real challenge would have. |
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Post by MetalPSI™ on Feb 18, 2017 12:58:55 GMT -8
That's really the only answer. He was a complete nutter I'd imagine a zombie apocalypse would drive some people insane. Just look at the stress on some folks when something trivial happens, like a software change on a chat board. Imagine the impact a real challenge would have. I really enjoyed Stephen King's The Stand. There was a little side story he did, explaining the lives of random people and just the sheer dumb luck that can happen. One instance was of a prude who went to shoot some innocent loud mouth guy, and the gun exploded in her hands. Another where a kid broke her leg and was doomed, and some other random ones that I can't remember. Given a catastrophe there are going to be a LOT of deaths from sheer stupidity. Then there will be more just out of sheer bad luck. When it comes to survival of the fittest, not always the cream rises to the top... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 13:06:10 GMT -8
That's really the only answer. He was a complete nutter I'd imagine a zombie apocalypse would drive some people insane. Just look at the stress on some folks when something trivial happens, like a software change on a chat board. Imagine the impact a real challenge would have. Without going all Godwin's law, the closest we've come to the conditions of a zombie apocalypse, at least in modern times, was central Europe from 1943-1945. People did awful, hideous, atrocious, lawless things, because the entire civilization had devolved into utter lawlessness. That's not to say that those things aren't still done...they are...but it's rare that those things are encouraged by, and enabled with, the full support and apparatus of the government. |
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Post by MetalPSI™ on Feb 18, 2017 13:08:48 GMT -8
I'd imagine a zombie apocalypse would drive some people insane. Just look at the stress on some folks when something trivial happens, like a software change on a chat board. Imagine the impact a real challenge would have. Without going all Godwin's law, the closest we've come to the conditions of a zombie apocalypse, at least in modern times, was central Europe from 1943-1945. People did awful, hideous, atrocious, lawless things, because the entire civilization had devolved into utter lawlessness. That's not to say that those things aren't still done...they are...but it's rare that those things are encouraged by, and enabled with, the full support and apparatus of the government. I've been watching some really great documentaries on the subject matter on Netflix lately. We barely touched on the subject in high school and now I understand why. I suppose while in school I had a LOT of other things on my plate, I never took a real hard look at the subject matter before. It's mind boggling how some entire countries ran with it, the "Jewish Question". I think a LOT of people were simply completely out of their minds. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 13:11:10 GMT -8
I really enjoyed Stephen King's The Stand. There was a little side story he did, explaining the lives of random people and just the sheer dumb luck that can happen. One instance was of a prude who went to shoot some innocent loud mouth guy, and the gun exploded in her hands. Another where a kid broke her leg and was doomed, and some other random ones that I can't remember. Given a catastrophe there are going to be a LOT of deaths from sheer stupidity. Then there will be more just out of sheer bad luck. When it comes to survival of the fittest, not always the cream rises to the top... Which is why Darwinian Survival of the fittest refers to those best suited to adapt to their environment and not necessarily those with esteemed traits. |
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