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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 11:33:50 GMT -8
Good article that I'm reading: theringer.com/image-comics-25-year-anniversary-the-walking-dead-e4774b7bffcd#.ubylrlcsqAs usual, though, some really rather interesting statements, including this one by Jim Valentino: “We all saw the mistakes that everybody else made before us and decided not to repeat them,” Valentino said. “We also set up the company in such a way that was favorable to us and therefore favorable to anyone else who came in. We had a very long view.” No, not "therefore." In fact, quite the contrary, and one of the main reasons the vast majority of revolutions have failed throughout man's history. It's bad reasoning. There isn't any "therefore" involved; nearly all the time, the NEW people in charge do the exact same things as the OLD people in charge...just now in the interests of the NEW people, instead of the old: meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Just because it was favorable to THOSE guys does NOT "therefore" mean it was favorable to anyone else who came in. I understand what Valentino is trying to say, but that doesn't happen unless...like, with the US, for example...you have a group of relatively well educated, and relatively intelligent people who are fanatically dedicated to creating a society in which everyone is officially (if not in practice) equal, and nobody has any special class, power, or privilege over anyone else, you'll just end up right back where you started. And the most intensely frustrating thing about it is that the NEW people in charge are almost universally oblivious to this fact: because things have improved for THEM, they just assume things have improved for EVERYONE. Like I said, it's bad reasoning. |
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Post by Prince Namor on Feb 5, 2017 12:35:23 GMT -8
That and, besides the initial surge, really built on speculation (I wasn't a fan of Liefeld and still bought Youngblood #1) - Image faltered a great deal over the course of the first 15 years.
Really, what saved that company and helped them get to 25 years as healthy as they now are, is Stephenson's direction and Kirkman's Walking Dead.
Todd is rich enough to publish Spawn forever, regardless of poorly it sells, Larsen has enough of a fan base to keep Savage Dragon going; but neither of them are a blip to the Big Two.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 12:56:23 GMT -8
That and, besides the initial surge, really built on speculation (I wasn't a fan of Liefeld and still bought Youngblood #1) - Image faltered a great deal over the course of the first 15 years. Really, what saved that company and helped them get to 25 years as healthy as they now are, is Stephenson's direction and Kirkman's Walking Dead. Todd is rich enough to publish Spawn forever, regardless of poorly it sells, Larsen has enough of a fan base to keep Savage Dragon going; but neither of them are a blip to the Big Two. Yup. That's what happens when people who don't know what they're doing, but aren't ever told no by anyone, try to run things. You NEED managers, which is why there are such things as "editors" in the first place. Did McFarlane, Lee, Larsen, Liefeld, et al, ever compensate the retailers who stuck their necks out for them in 1992-1993? I doubt it. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I doubt it. Whatever compensation was given was forced out of them. Marvel & DC were worried, but they didn't ultimately have any reason to be. Image hung themselves. EVEN SPAWN, an ostensibly "monthly" comic, was late. |
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Post by MetalPSI™ on Feb 5, 2017 13:41:19 GMT -8
I had often wondered why Keown did the last issues of Pitt under his own Full Bleed Studios
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 13:51:45 GMT -8
I had often wondered why Keown did the last issues of Pitt under his own Full Bleed Studios Why do you think a couple of issues of Witchblade and Darkness were published with the "Cow" imprint, rather than Image? Mainly because of Rob Liefeld. ...which, of course, this article glosses over.... |
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Post by MetalPSI™ on Feb 5, 2017 13:56:36 GMT -8
I had often wondered why Keown did the last issues of Pitt under his own Full Bleed Studios Why do you think a couple of issues of Witchblade and Darkness were published with the "Cow" imprint, rather than Image? Mainly because of Rob Liefeld. ...which, of course, this article glosses over.... I remember seeing a few Cow titles  Did Gen13 end up at Top Cow at some point? I only got to issue 15 or so before giving up on it. I still have a soft spot for FreeFall though....Everyone loved Fairchild, but I was always more attracted to Freefall. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 13:58:37 GMT -8
Soft spot for Fairchild and Freefall you say...? Boy, you're gonna love what I just got back from CGC...  |
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Post by MetalPSI™ on Feb 5, 2017 14:01:04 GMT -8
Soft spot for Fairchild and Freefall you say...? Boy, you're gonna love what I just got back from CGC... I wanna see  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 14:28:43 GMT -8
Why do you think a couple of issues of Witchblade and Darkness were published with the "Cow" imprint, rather than Image? Mainly because of Rob Liefeld. ...which, of course, this article glosses over.... I remember seeing a few Cow titles Did Gen13 end up at Top Cow at some point? I only got to issue 15 or so before giving up on it. I still have a soft spot for FreeFall though....Everyone loved Fairchild, but I was always more attracted to Freefall. And Gen13, along with the rest of the Wildstorm titles, ended up at DC when Lee sold them in...I want to say 99? |
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Post by MetalPSI™ on Feb 5, 2017 14:31:23 GMT -8
Ah right it was Wildstorm
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Post by Stu on Feb 7, 2017 6:17:12 GMT -8
That and, besides the initial surge, really built on speculation (I wasn't a fan of Liefeld and still bought Youngblood #1) - Image faltered a great deal over the course of the first 15 years. Really, what saved that company and helped them get to 25 years as healthy as they now are, is Stephenson's direction and Kirkman's Walking Dead. Todd is rich enough to publish Spawn forever, regardless of poorly it sells, Larsen has enough of a fan base to keep Savage Dragon going; but neither of them are a blip to the Big Two. Yup. That's what happens when people who don't know what they're doing, but aren't ever told no by anyone, try to run things. You NEED managers, which is why there are such things as "editors" in the first place. Did McFarlane, Lee, Larsen, Liefeld, et al, ever compensate the retailers who stuck their necks out for them in 1992-1993? I doubt it. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I doubt it. Whatever compensation was given was forced out of them. Marvel & DC were worried, but they didn't ultimately have any reason to be. Image hung themselves. EVEN SPAWN, an ostensibly "monthly" comic, was late. Spawn was so late at one point they said  it, were just going to skip # 19 and 20 and publish those later |
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it, were just going to skip # 19 and 20 and publish those later