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Post by barry on Jan 31, 2021 10:50:31 GMT -8
It's entirely political. BLM is a Marxist organization. Radical Democrats protect the movement no matter how violent. I think moderate Democrats are afraid to speak against it. I don't think they are afraid to speak out against. In fact, they encouraged the protests (or at the very least didn't discourage them just as many on the CGC chat forum where many of us hang out also didn't discourage them, and to me that is almost the same thing as encouraging them)
Anyway, not trying to go off on a segue on debating BLM protests (although I'm happy to if you guys want to) I'm just trying to somehow figure out the double standard and why BLM protests are not considered domestic terrorism when they fall under the definition of it clearly.
The answer is obvious, the branding of domestic terrorist is now being used to only brand enemies of the current administration and like the 'Russian collusion' smear it's being done to create division and to discredit the opposition.
That is the only honest way I can see how the hypocrisy is allowed.
I think they support it because it supports their own agenda.
BLM riots should be considered domestic terrorism. It is also "accepted" domestic terrorism by the Left. I think MLK would be 100% against this. His protests were peaceful. |
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Post by parker1865 on Jan 31, 2021 11:02:24 GMT -8
blm riots were in fact described as domestic terrorism by the fbi, and the fbi is actively investigating and identifying the criminal actors in the riots and their ties to blm, and or kkk and/or antifa.
the congressional record is our friend.
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Post by Stu on Jan 31, 2021 11:21:11 GMT -8
Everything’s potentially political, but not everything is government was what I was trying to say. Google defines it for me as this:
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. Wiki defines it as this: in the broadest sense, the use of intentional violence for political or religious purposes.[1] It is used in this regard primarily to refer to violence during peacetime or in the context of war against non-combatants (mostly civilians and neutral military personnel).[2]
the FBI defines it as this: International terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups who are inspired by, or associated with, designated foreign terrorist organizations or nations (state-sponsored).
Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.
To me, ALL of these definitions place BLM riots under the term terrorists and by the FBI's definition of domestic terrorism, most accurately. Can anyone disagree with this?
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Post by Stu on Jan 31, 2021 11:23:01 GMT -8
I remember you saying that.
I also make a distinction between rioters AND voters, just as I did for the BLM protestors last year on another forum.
What I don't understand is why the BLM protestors are not labelled domestic terrorists by the new administration but the Capitol protestors are. We've already seen this double standard in the way Covid protests are handled. If you're protesting Covid restrictions you're not allowed and the fear is you're spreading Covid. If you're protesting with BLM little to no mention of Covid worries and it's given a pass by the people I interact with because it's 'their constitutional right' to protest.
The pretzel logic is not only non-nonsensical and hypocritical it borders on criminal.
It's entirely political. BLM is a Marxist organization. Radical Democrats protect the movement no matter how violent. I think moderate Democrats are afraid to speak against it.  You guys are ridiculous |
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Post by Stu on Jan 31, 2021 11:25:47 GMT -8
I don't think they are afraid to speak out against. In fact, they encouraged the protests (or at the very least didn't discourage them just as many on the CGC chat forum where many of us hang out also didn't discourage them, and to me that is almost the same thing as encouraging them) Anyway, not trying to go off on a segue on debating BLM protests (although I'm happy to if you guys want to) I'm just trying to somehow figure out the double standard and why BLM protests are not considered domestic terrorism when they fall under the definition of it clearly. The answer is obvious, the branding of domestic terrorist is now being used to only brand enemies of the current administration and like the 'Russian collusion' smear it's being done to create division and to discredit the opposition.
That is the only honest way I can see how the hypocrisy is allowed.
I think they support it because it supports their own agenda.
BLM riots should be considered domestic terrorism. It is also "accepted" domestic terrorism by the Left. I think MLK would be 100% against this. His protests were peaceful. Oh great, now we have racist hypocrites  Can you sink any lower? |
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Post by barry on Jan 31, 2021 12:30:44 GMT -8
BLM riots should be considered domestic terrorism. It is also "accepted" domestic terrorism by the Left. I think MLK would be 100% against this. His protests were peaceful. Oh great, now we have racist hypocrites Can you sink any lower? Racist? Hypocrite? |
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Post by parker1865 on Jan 31, 2021 14:56:22 GMT -8
Oh great, now we have racist hypocrites Can you sink any lower? Racist? Hypocrite? just shrug it off. the easiest at hand tool for a person to use when the goal is to negate what is stated, or negate the opinion of another person, is to employ a racism sword. it is a meaningless gesture designed to belittle a person and re-direct a conversation to a direction the accuser desires, so a pointless argument can ensue, if the person accused responds. don't respond to childish ignorance. |
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Post by Stu on Jan 31, 2021 15:08:22 GMT -8
just shrug it off. the easiest at hand tool for a person to use when the goal is to negate what is stated, or negate the opinion of another person, is to employ a racism sword. it is a meaningless gesture designed to belittle a person and re-direct a conversation to a direction the accuser desires, so a pointless argument can ensue, if the person accused responds. don't respond to childish ignorance. Ignorance has never stopped you from responding. In fact you're more of an ignorant troll than Roy - at least he collects comics. You're only here to be a  . |
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 31, 2021 16:30:02 GMT -8
just shrug it off. the easiest at hand tool for a person to use when the goal is to negate what is stated, or negate the opinion of another person, is to employ a racism sword. it is a meaningless gesture designed to belittle a person and re-direct a conversation to a direction the accuser desires, so a pointless argument can ensue, if the person accused responds. don't respond to childish ignorance. It's a common tactic to disarm someone in the court of public opinion.
You call someone a Nazi, a racist or something else similar and you immediately give opponents a unified identity to confront.
It's what they did to me in the Watercooler. They labelled me with a bunch of names and even if they had no basis in reality (for example, none of them could point to a post where I actually stated that i believed the virus was a hoax, or that i believed the Demon Sperm Doctor was trustworthy or that I said comics were essential service) they continued to perpetuate something untrue.
Am I racist? Maybe. I prefer darker women to white women.  |
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Post by Stu on Jan 31, 2021 16:38:56 GMT -8
just shrug it off. the easiest at hand tool for a person to use when the goal is to negate what is stated, or negate the opinion of another person, is to employ a racism sword. it is a meaningless gesture designed to belittle a person and re-direct a conversation to a direction the accuser desires, so a pointless argument can ensue, if the person accused responds. don't respond to childish ignorance. It's a common tactic to disarm someone in the court of public opinion.
You call someone a Nazi, a racist or something else similar and you immediately give opponents a unified identity to confront. It's what they did to me in the Watercooler. They labelled me with a bunch of names and even if they had no basis in reality (for example, none of them could point to a post where I actually stated that i believed the virus was a hoax, or that i believed the Demon Sperm Doctor was trustworthy or that I said comics were essential service) they continued to perpetuate something untrue.
Am I racist? Maybe. I prefer darker women to white women. We already knew you are racist, that's why I included your quote. You think it's cool to use the N Word and you will defend your right to use it. And you're the one who loves to bring up Hitler. I remember that thread in CGC General... no not the recent one in the Watercooler, an earlier one (2008 iirc) Not sure if you remember it tho *glug glug* |
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 31, 2021 16:43:04 GMT -8
blm riots were in fact described as domestic terrorism by the fbi, and the fbi is actively investigating and identifying the criminal actors in the riots and their ties to blm, and or kkk and/or antifa. the congressional record is our friend. That's interesting. So the BLM riots are considered domestic terrorism by the FBI (which I think is appropriate) but the news isn't talking about that (at least not the mainstream news that I can see)
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Post by Stu on Feb 1, 2021 6:01:20 GMT -8
Did you guys know that Buddy Saunders, owner of MyComicShop, is also a whackjob conspiracy fruitcake? Reading his blog makes me want to stop buying from MCS. The only reason I don't is because Conan is much more level-headed and seems to be the one really in charge. "75 million people voted for Donald Trump, and most believe, as Buddy does, that the election was stolen big time." "We now have a cowbird president nesting in the White House. A majority of Americans know or very much suspect that Biden (I will never put the word President in front of his name) stole the election." buddyssoapbox.wordpress.com/ |
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Post by Stu on Feb 1, 2021 8:44:54 GMT -8
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Post by steveinthecity on Feb 1, 2021 10:42:18 GMT -8
Did you guys know that Buddy Saunders, owner of MyComicShop, is also a whackjob conspiracy fruitcake? Reading his blog makes me want to stop buying from MCS. The only reason I don't is because Conan is much more level-headed and seems to be the one really in charge. "75 million people voted for Donald Trump, and most believe, as Buddy does, that the election was stolen big time." "We now have a cowbird president nesting in the White House. A majority of Americans know or very much suspect that Biden (I will never put the word President in front of his name) stole the election." buddyssoapbox.wordpress.com/Reading that has sure cast a gloomy cloud over my day. When Buddy gets around to saying he watched/heard “several State committee meetings on the subject” (of the stolen election) that convinced him it was fact, I had to really wonder how he got to this place in his head? I wonder too, why I believe so differently from him and countless others who believe the election was fraudulent? I mean, I really think these people are ridiculous, and sadly I suspect they would think the same about me.  |
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 1, 2021 15:18:20 GMT -8
Oh, boo hoo. Cry me a river.
You know what's great about the relationship between John and Serj? They can completely disagree and they still love and respect each other.
That's the lesson I wold take from that. Not that one is wrong and one is right.
I know John well and he's outspoken about his beliefs and he can articulate why he believes what he does without calling anyone names. I say more power to him and Serj because that's what democracy is about.
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You guys are ridiculous
Can you sink any lower?
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