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What, are you the self-appointed spokesman for biologists now? Talk about "Appealing To Authority", and then naming yourself as their spokesman. 

A human zygote naturally becomes...
A human embryo that naturally becomes....
A human fetus that naturally becomes....
A human baby that naturally becomes....
A human toddler that naturally becomes....
A human child that naturally becomes....
A human adolescent that naturally becomes....
A human adult.

All are human beings at different ages. 

No one can exactly define WHEN any particular zygote becomes an embryo and no one can exactly define WHEN any particular baby becomes a toddler. 

But no one will (honestly) deny that they are ALL examples of human beings at different ages of development. 



You're using terms that you can't define, in order to support a position that is arbitrary and cannot be explained, namely your defense of abortion based on the idea of "potential human" vs "actual human" (those are your terms - terms I've NEVER seen widely used in any biology textbook or scientific reference).

Yet you insist that your expertise in biology (which I had to correct regarding fertilization 'interrupting' an oocyte completing it's meiotic growth cycle) gives you understanding and vocabulary that does not seem to be used in any other biological sources). 

Again I ask you, what do you mean by "potential human" vs "actual human" - because these are not scientific terms even though you seem to be using them as if they are. 

And when does a "potential human" become an "actual human" - is it related to the end of the 1st trimester which you also brought up. 

People have self-defined who is and who isn't "human" for centuries, and then using that to commit all sorts of atrocities against those whom they themselves define as "not quite as human as me". Serial killers do that too - deny that their victim is "human" and that allows them to psychologically-rationalize the torture and brutality of their weaker victims. This idea that one can define for themselves who is and who is not "human" and act on that self-created definition is an atrocious path!!

I am really and honestly trying to understand what you're saying, but you keep dodging your own explanations. 




ETA clarification

And an oocyte does not get fertilized during meiosis or after completing meiosis and meiosis is not a cycle-Women have all the eggs they will ever have while at about 20 weeks gestation-pls stop trying to educate a biologist on biology FFS.

It would be nice if he stopped trying to obfuscate and have an actual discussion.

I would have more respect if he just came out and said his "god" doesn't like abortion.

Ask him how he feels about all the Palestine children who have been killed by Israel in the current dispute going on.

! 

Killing humans for convenience, at any age, is wrong.

But there is no discussion because apparently some can't discuss without hurling insults and ad hominins or won't even explain the words and phrases they're using to defend their positions. Not to mention admit they're mistaken about about the basics biology of oocytes and fertilization. 

Just because someone is a "biologist" doesn't mean they remember all the basics of gametogenesis and fertilization. 

Like I said earlier, I have a family member who was told by a MEDICAL DOCTOR (psychiatrist) that her abortion was just a "glob of goo". 

She was also the victim of rape, and the pregnancy resulted. She continues to be far more traumatized after learning that her "doctors" lied to her about what she aborted, because what she aborted was NOT a "glob of goo" but it had a human beating heart and tiny human arms and human legs and human uniqueness that will never exist again. She regrets it and says the killing of unborn is only spreading the violence of that started with the rape. Abortion doesn't end the crime or trauma of rape, it only causes a permanent violence (death sentence) upon the second innocent victim of the rape. 

There are many many women who are struggling deeply with being misled and actually lied into getting an abortion. But those women have no public support. Only private support centers, like Rachels Vineyard in our Church which we support with our time and treasure. 

Meiosis is the same process in all animals. 

A biologist such as yourself should know that. 

But you don't.

A biologist such as yourself should also know that oocytes cannot complete meiosis without fertilization occurring. 

But you don't.

You should also not post incomplete images that don't show where fertilization takes place in that process: 




Dude, it's clear you have forgotten basic oogenesis and meiosis - it's probably been decades since you even studied it. 

Not that it matters to you, but I have a Ph.D. in this and I teach it every semester and have been for almost 30 years at the University level.

Please - go open a biology book and learn. 

Fertilization does NOT "interrupt" the growth of the oocyte (as you mistakenly insisted) - it COMPLETES the meiotic growth of it.  




You have broken MANY of your own rules of debate here Kav. You used to tout a list of how liberals would behave when confronted about their errors - and here you are doing the very same thing. Shame.