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Post by jsilverjanet on Mar 3, 2023 15:02:31 GMT -8
"Are you sure? You seemed pretty fearful during the pandemic far longer and more than the average person was. I stopped being afraid by about May 2020. Many people still live in the fear and anxiety over Covid-19 that the government stoked."
Fear and anxiety are two very different things. I take it you've never had a panic attack?
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Post by quantumcomics on Mar 3, 2023 15:14:46 GMT -8
"You're going to ask someone who was trained by research almost fully funded by drug companies what they think of drugs?"
I was going to ask a doctor who prescribes medicine about the companys that have video doctors who prescribe anxiety medicine via video and not in office sessions
Is there anything you aren't cynical about?
"Cynical"? He passed cynical a looooonnnngggggg time ago.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 18:24:20 GMT -8
I've been watching Hulu programs and noticed products sold via HIM and HERS
I've seen these commercials before for ED and baldness but recently saw that you can get anxiety medication
My personal experience with medication for anxiety (take for flying) is minimal but also know friends/family that have dealt with it and I know it's a long process before medication is prescribed and usually its trying to find a right dosage/medication that can take years on perfecting
my concern is that how accessible this is and I also have very little faith in the the doctors being used to help prescribe the medication
furthermore how quick we are to medicate the issue without trying to explore the causes (driving the anxiety) and finding help via other means (healthy living as an example)
I thought of you vintagecomics as someone who might share my same concerns You know Zod's a fan, and Zod also finds this to be an important general topic. Having said that... You're making what Zod refers to as an AAA, or Abortion Adjacent Argument. You're asking (in essence) "Do too many women use abortion as birth control?"And there are many problems with such an argument, whether abortion or medication are being discussed. First, it cannot be answered logically. Second, everyone and every situation is different. Third, we cannot decide for others (strangers) what their best path might be. Thus depending on the circumstances and resources of a given family or individual, over-medication MIGHT or might NOT be an issue. But even in such an individual case, circumstances change.
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Post by vintagecomics on Mar 3, 2023 18:40:23 GMT -8
"Are you sure? You seemed pretty fearful during the pandemic far longer and more than the average person was. I stopped being afraid by about May 2020. Many people still live in the fear and anxiety over Covid-19 that the government stoked."
Fear and anxiety are two very different things. I take it you've never had a panic attack? I actually have. How does that change what I said?
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Post by kav on Mar 3, 2023 18:43:19 GMT -8
Anxiety is just chronic fear-not 'two different things' at all. According to psychology there are 6 emotions fear, anger, joy, sadness, disgust, and surprise.
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Post by vintagecomics on Mar 3, 2023 18:45:12 GMT -8
"You're going to ask someone who was trained by research almost fully funded by drug companies what they think of drugs?"
I was going to ask a doctor who prescribes medicine about the companys that have video doctors who prescribe anxiety medicine via video and not in office sessions
Is there anything you aren't cynical about? Probably not. I was winning logic awards as early as grade school, got straight As in physics in high school and then dropped out and spent 22 years fixing problems nobody else could fix. I tend to question everything down to it's core and take very little at face value. ESPECIALLY if big money is involved because if big money is involved, it's NOT a question of WHETHER there is corruption or not. It's a question of how big the corruption is. I haven't trusted the medical industry since the mid 1990s. The Pharmaceutical complex is one of the largest businesses on earth. They don't care about you more than they care about your money.
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Post by theCapraAegagrus on Mar 6, 2023 4:26:24 GMT -8
Anxiety is living in the future.
Depression is living in the past.
Once you control your own thoughts, these don't affect you.
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Post by jsilverjanet on Mar 6, 2023 8:26:06 GMT -8
"Are you sure? You seemed pretty fearful during the pandemic far longer and more than the average person was. I stopped being afraid by about May 2020. Many people still live in the fear and anxiety over Covid-19 that the government stoked."
Fear and anxiety are two very different things. I take it you've never had a panic attack? I actually have. How does that change what I said? well going back when I need to medicate for my anxiety (panic attack) is only on planes, I never experienced the need to do it during the pandemic (i didn't fly) so I never got to the point that I needed to medicate
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Post by jsilverjanet on Mar 6, 2023 8:27:03 GMT -8
"You're going to ask someone who was trained by research almost fully funded by drug companies what they think of drugs?"
I was going to ask a doctor who prescribes medicine about the companys that have video doctors who prescribe anxiety medicine via video and not in office sessions
Is there anything you aren't cynical about? Probably not. I was winning logic awards as early as grade school, got straight As in physics in high school and then dropped out and spent 22 years fixing problems nobody else could fix. I tend to question everything down to it's core and take very little at face value. ESPECIALLY if big money is involved because if big money is involved, it's NOT a question of WHETHER there is corruption or not. It's a question of how big the corruption is. I haven't trusted the medical industry since the mid 1990s. The Pharmaceutical complex is one of the largest businesses on earth. They don't care about you more than they care about your money. looking back, do you think you should have done something different with your life? seems like you had potential to do big things in another field
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Post by quantumcomics on Mar 6, 2023 8:28:49 GMT -8
Maybe it's a Canadian thing but I personally never heard of "logic awards".
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Post by vintagecomics on Mar 6, 2023 15:34:36 GMT -8
Maybe it's a Canadian thing but I personally never heard of "logic awards". And it shows.
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Post by vintagecomics on Mar 6, 2023 15:38:15 GMT -8
Probably not. I was winning logic awards as early as grade school, got straight As in physics in high school and then dropped out and spent 22 years fixing problems nobody else could fix. I tend to question everything down to it's core and take very little at face value. ESPECIALLY if big money is involved because if big money is involved, it's NOT a question of WHETHER there is corruption or not. It's a question of how big the corruption is. I haven't trusted the medical industry since the mid 1990s. The Pharmaceutical complex is one of the largest businesses on earth. They don't care about you more than they care about your money. looking back, do you think you should have done something different with your life? seems like you had potential to do big things in another field We all have things we'd do differently. One of my big regrets is not getting into higher education and learning engineering. Mechanical engineering is probably my one true love. I love trying to understand how things work and my son is wired the same way. All of my kids are actually. Thankfully they are pursuing education. My parents were never into higher education. They were raised as blue collar workers and they never pushed it on us either. I think my oldest daughter is actually the 1st of my bloodline to get a university degree. Do you have anything you wish you'd pursued or would have done differently?
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Post by vintagecomics on Mar 6, 2023 15:44:56 GMT -8
I actually have. How does that change what I said? well going back when I need to medicate for my anxiety (panic attack) is only on planes, I never experienced the need to do it during the pandemic (i didn't fly) so I never got to the point that I needed to medicate I believe you can overcome many mental illness issues (like anxiety) without pharmaceuticals. But people aren't being taught how to do the work. In fact, the business model of medicine is "for profit" meaning, it's not in their best interest to heal you. It's in their best interest to keep you ill.
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Post by kav on Mar 6, 2023 15:48:25 GMT -8
looking back, do you think you should have done something different with your life? seems like you had potential to do big things in another field We all have things we'd do differently. One of my big regrets is not getting into higher education and learning engineering. Mechanical engineering is probably my one true love. I love trying to understand how things work and my son is wired the same way. All of my kids are actually. Thankfully they are pursuing education. My parents were never into higher education. They were raised as blue collar workers and they never pushed it on us either. I think my oldest daughter is actually the 1st of my bloodline to get a university degree. Do you have anything you wish you'd pursued or would have done differently? I was lucky. Both my parents had college degrees-my dad in mathematics and my mom in social work-I was often on the university campus with them and sometimes in class. College was a no brainer for me.
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Post by vintagecomics on Mar 6, 2023 15:53:00 GMT -8
We all have things we'd do differently. One of my big regrets is not getting into higher education and learning engineering. Mechanical engineering is probably my one true love. I love trying to understand how things work and my son is wired the same way. All of my kids are actually. Thankfully they are pursuing education. My parents were never into higher education. They were raised as blue collar workers and they never pushed it on us either. I think my oldest daughter is actually the 1st of my bloodline to get a university degree. Do you have anything you wish you'd pursued or would have done differently? I was lucky. Both my parents had college degrees-my dad in mathematics and my mom in social work-I was often on the university campus with them and sometimes in class. College was a no brainer for me. I shouldn't say I regret it, because regret is such a negative word but I probably would have loved uni. I was also very impatient and probably ADHD and so sitting and learning was a tough call for me. I had real difficulty focusing on a textbook for extended periods. I was the guy reading guitar magazine in science classes in high school. I also married young. I was 21 when I got married. But I do love learning and I am a bit jealous of people who were able to get to uni and go through that experience. I'm pretty sure I would have driven all the namisgrs crazy in university too.
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