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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 14, 2023 17:06:21 GMT -8
There's no evidence that the instructor was trolling, behaving abysmally or disgraceful. Zero. It's in the syllabus, she stated it would be shown since it was directly relevant to the course, and it's not and never has been objectively offensive except to a small portion of Muslims from cultures that originate outside our own. If anything, the student was trolling, knowing ahead of time the "Islamophobia-Card" would be used to dispatch and behead (metaphorically) the instructor. Hi JCJ. I've laid out an extensive critique of Prater's conduct in my AF omnibus thread, and I'm happy to further discuss this and related AF issues on that thread. This thread, whatever the intentions of its originator, has descended into a mindless game of Whack-a-Muslim, and is thus of little interest to me. In case we don't converse further on this topic, it may interest you to know that numerous prominent Muslims as well as large Muslim organizations - including CAIR - have come out in support of the narcissistic Professor Prater. Your critiques of Professor Prater are all unfounded accusations with no proof of anything they've done do deserve them. I don't understand how you come to the conclusions you come to with no proof of intent or a pattern of behavior. There's more proof that Covid is from a lab.  And as someone who has read extensively on Islam including reading the Quran, the Hadith and even a biography of Muhammad written around a century after his death, I'd say I have a better understanding of Islam than the average person and there ARE factions within Islam that DO NOT support Prater. It's mainly the Westernized, more liberal version of Islam that is much more forgiving. She'd probably not last very long in many Eastern Muslim countries, in which most people would even likely label those forgiving Muslim organizations as heretics. That's not playing "Whack-a-Muslim". It's just discussing reality. As in ALL religions, there si a wide spectrum of beliefs and practices ranging from the liberal to the strict and only the more Liberal ones are coming out in support. And that spectrum exists in every aspect of life from politics to religion . |
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 14, 2023 17:10:32 GMT -8
Not their actions or what they do or don't do. Christianity is a religion, not just a belief or a faith, though faith and belief are vitally important. Christianity is more than just a belief, it must also be an action, an outward manifestation of the inner faith in Christ. Now, like as you also said, what OTHER people believe does not have any bearing on the Christian person's beliefs (though they may be informed and strengthened by other believers). With that I agree. I don't have to FORCE other's to admit Jesus is Lord or kill them if they don't in order to please God. That's very different than Islam of course. But Jesus did not institute just a "faith" or a set of beliefs here on earth when he anointed Peter as the "rock upon which I will build my Church", he instituted a "Church", with specific commands of authority and actions that he taught, and with a hierarchy of authority which he granted to the Apostles (not to all disciples) such as "whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven" and "...so I send you... Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained." Obeying and doing are JUST as important as believing. But for many or most (myself included), that is the hardest part. "You believe that God is one. You do well. Even the demons believe that, and tremble." Believing alone is not enough. I'm happy to have the discussion but I'm not sure this is the thread for it. But I am firmly in the "faith" camp and not in the "works and faith" camp on the topic of what Christianity is. |
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