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Taiwan
Aug 5, 2022 3:49:39 GMT -8
Post by barry on Aug 5, 2022 3:49:39 GMT -8
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parker1865
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Post by parker1865 on Aug 5, 2022 5:14:45 GMT -8
Good. The US. Response is (and this would be the response as soon as it is realized by my Fellow Citizens of the Federal Republic of the United States of America that I am supposed to be in charge ):
Thank you Red China for your annoying bluster. I will not bluster, in reply.
AS OF THIS DATE, THE U.S. IS CANCELING ALL PAYMENTS FOR ANY DEBT CLAIMED BY RED CHINA FOR ANY AMOUNT FOR ANYTHING, PAST PRESENT OR FUTURE.
AS OF THIS DATE, ANY REAL ESTATE HOLDINGS AND/OR INVESTMENTS OF ANY BUSINESS AND/OR PROPERTY OF ANY NATURE WITHIN THE BORDERS OF THE U.S. AND THE TERRITORIES OF THE U.S. IS NOW THE PROPERTY OF THE U.S.
AS OF THIS DATE, ANY U.S. CITIZEN ENGAGING IN ANY COMMERCE OF ANY NATURE FOR ANY PURPOSE, WHETHER INDIVIDUALLY OR AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A BUSINESS ENTITY, WITH RED CHINA, WILL BE SUBJECT TO PENALTIES AND SEIZURE OF ANY PROPERTY/ASSETS/BANK ACCOUNTS AND/OR STOCK MARKET ACCOUNTS, WITHOUT ANY PAYMENT FOR SAME BY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AS OF THIS DATE, NO PRODUCTS PRODUCED OR BOUGHT FOR PURPOSES OF SALE OR TRADE WITHIN THE BORDERS OF THE U.S. AND THE TERRITORIES OF THE U.S. BY ANY PERSON OR ENTITY OF RED CHINA IS SUBJECT TO CONFISCATION AND IS THE PROPERTY OF THE U.S.
AS OF THIS DATE, NO GOODS OR SERVICES PRODUCED OR OWNED OR IN POSSESSION OF ANY PERSON OR ENTITY WITHIN THE BORDERS OF THE U.S. AND THE TERRITORIES OF THE U.S. WILL BE SOLD OR TRANSFERRED OR DELIVERED TO RED CHINA.
SIGNED:
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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Taiwan
Aug 5, 2022 16:02:20 GMT -8
Post by vintagecomics on Aug 5, 2022 16:02:20 GMT -8
That's exactly what that post means, I think. The US is trying to appease China to decouple China from Russia to crush Russia. So who do the Chinese need more? Russia or the US? It's a good question. This video the-comic-book-forum.boards.net/post/89952/thread says that if its main trade route was blocked, China would only survive 90 days before it ran out of energy. So it may be a short term vs long term issue. But it appears China and Russia have already made their pact. We'll have to see how long it lasts. That's like building your dream home but it can only withstand a light rain storm before melting.  I'll have to watch that when I get some time, but it's a shocking position for a Superpower to be in and I'd be surprised if it was true. One thing that seems certain is that the galvanizing and division of American politics seems to be spreading to the rest of the world now...and everyone is being forced to pick only one side. And it all started with the pandemic, practically speaking. We've always had ideological division globally but neutral countries are now being obliged to choose a side and the push to galvanize the global political landscape at an unprecedented rate into one of two sides at a rate that is unprecedented since the 2nd world war. Imma need to brush up on my biblical prophecy again!  |
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Taiwan
Aug 6, 2022 4:59:59 GMT -8
Post by barry on Aug 6, 2022 4:59:59 GMT -8
Good. The US. Response is (and this would be the response as soon as it is realized by my Fellow Citizens of the Federal Republic of the United States of America that I am supposed to be in charge ): Thank you Red China for your annoying bluster. I will not bluster, in reply. AS OF THIS DATE, THE U.S. IS CANCELING ALL PAYMENTS FOR ANY DEBT CLAIMED BY RED CHINA FOR ANY AMOUNT FOR ANYTHING, PAST PRESENT OR FUTURE. AS OF THIS DATE, ANY REAL ESTATE HOLDINGS AND/OR INVESTMENTS OF ANY BUSINESS AND/OR PROPERTY OF ANY NATURE WITHIN THE BORDERS OF THE U.S. AND THE TERRITORIES OF THE U.S. IS NOW THE PROPERTY OF THE U.S. AS OF THIS DATE, ANY U.S. CITIZEN ENGAGING IN ANY COMMERCE OF ANY NATURE FOR ANY PURPOSE, WHETHER INDIVIDUALLY OR AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A BUSINESS ENTITY, WITH RED CHINA, WILL BE SUBJECT TO PENALTIES AND SEIZURE OF ANY PROPERTY/ASSETS/BANK ACCOUNTS AND/OR STOCK MARKET ACCOUNTS, WITHOUT ANY PAYMENT FOR SAME BY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AS OF THIS DATE, NO PRODUCTS PRODUCED OR BOUGHT FOR PURPOSES OF SALE OR TRADE WITHIN THE BORDERS OF THE U.S. AND THE TERRITORIES OF THE U.S. BY ANY PERSON OR ENTITY OF RED CHINA IS SUBJECT TO CONFISCATION AND IS THE PROPERTY OF THE U.S. AS OF THIS DATE, NO GOODS OR SERVICES PRODUCED OR OWNED OR IN POSSESSION OF ANY PERSON OR ENTITY WITHIN THE BORDERS OF THE U.S. AND THE TERRITORIES OF THE U.S. WILL BE SOLD OR TRANSFERRED OR DELIVERED TO RED CHINA. SIGNED: THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA The West came so close to buying 5G from China. What a disaster that would have been. |
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Taiwan
Aug 6, 2022 5:20:53 GMT -8
Post by barry on Aug 6, 2022 5:20:53 GMT -8
It's a good question. This video the-comic-book-forum.boards.net/post/89952/thread says that if its main trade route was blocked, China would only survive 90 days before it ran out of energy. So it may be a short term vs long term issue. But it appears China and Russia have already made their pact. We'll have to see how long it lasts. That's like building your dream home but it can only withstand a light rain storm before melting. I'll have to watch that when I get some time, but it's a shocking position for a Superpower to be in and I'd be surprised if it was true. One thing that seems certain is that the galvanizing and division of American politics seems to be spreading to the rest of the world now...and everyone is being forced to pick only one side. And it all started with the pandemic, practically speaking. We've always had ideological division globally but neutral countries are now being obliged to choose a side and the push to galvanize the global political landscape at an unprecedented rate into one of two sides at a rate that is unprecedented since the 2nd world war. Imma need to brush up on my biblical prophecy again! China grew too quickly. They used to be 100% energy independent. The growth was fed with imported energy. Now they're in a tight spot. This fully explains their behavior in the South China Sea. They are extremely susceptible to a blockade at the Strait of Malacca where 80% of their oil passes through. Block the Strait, China withers and dies. Of course, they would respond militarily (much like Japan in WW2). |
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Taiwan
Aug 6, 2022 5:34:27 GMT -8
Post by barry on Aug 6, 2022 5:34:27 GMT -8
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Post by barry on Aug 6, 2022 7:21:22 GMT -8
We all need to stop buying Apple products immediately.
www.businessinsider.com/apple-halts-made-in-taiwan-label-anger-china-pelosi-visit-2022-8Apple reportedly warned suppliers not to use 'made in Taiwan' labels on products to avoid angering China following Nancy Pelosi's visit"The tech company told its suppliers that products or parts made in Taiwan must be identified as made either in "Taiwan, China" or "Chinese Taipei" to avoid indicating that the island is independent of China, the Japanese business news outlet said."
"Last year, The Information reported that Cook struck a five-year $275 billion deal with the Chinese government in 2016 in order to ease a regulatory crackdown on its business in Asia."
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Taiwan
Aug 6, 2022 16:05:09 GMT -8
Post by vintagecomics on Aug 6, 2022 16:05:09 GMT -8
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Taiwan
Aug 7, 2022 4:06:30 GMT -8
Post by barry on Aug 7, 2022 4:06:30 GMT -8
Asian countries are great at copying Western innovation, and that's about it. They can't compete with Western Capitalism. China can be crushed with technology sanctions. fortune.com/2022/08/07/nancy-pelosi-taiwan-us-china-chipmaker-pick-sides/Nancy Pelosi’s Taiwan trip has intensified the US and China’s chips showdown. Now the world’s chipmakers may be forced to pick a sideThe U.S. lags Asia in semiconductor manufacturing, but it remains a global leader in advanced semiconductor design and equipment. The U.S. accounts for over 80% of the world’s chip design equipment, over 50% of the core intellectual property for chip designs, and around half of the globe’s chip manufacturing equipment, according to the Boston Consulting Group. This means that the chip manufacturing powerhouses in Asia need U.S. designs and hardware to produce high-tech chips. Plus, the majority of these chipmakers’ wholesale customers are U.S.-based. The U.S. for instance, makes up 64% of TSMC’s sales. Those top customers include smartphone giant Apple, which accounts for a quarter of the Taiwanese firm’s revenue. |
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Taiwan
Aug 7, 2022 11:52:47 GMT -8
Post by vintagecomics on Aug 7, 2022 11:52:47 GMT -8
Asian countries are great at copying Western innovation, and that's about it. They can't compete with Western Capitalism. China can be crushed with technology sanctions. I've been saying this for decades. I grew up in the automotive industry and know it well, and every model Asian companies come out with are copies and improvements on Western designs. Every single one of them. Even tth2, an Asian himself, has stated that Asians can't think creatively and that is the main reason why they send their kids to Western schools: To try to learn to think creatively. But as linear thinkers, that is likely why they're so good at maths and sciences. They perfect things with their linear approaches to logic. |
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Taiwan
Aug 8, 2022 3:32:58 GMT -8
Post by barry on Aug 8, 2022 3:32:58 GMT -8
Asian countries are great at copying Western innovation, and that's about it. They can't compete with Western Capitalism. China can be crushed with technology sanctions. I've been saying this for decades. I grew up in the automotive industry and know it well, and every model Asian companies come out with are copies and improvements on Western designs. Every single one of them. Even tth2, an Asian himself, has stated that Asians can't think creatively and that is the main reason why they send their kids to Western schools: To try to learn to think creatively. But as linear thinkers, that is likely why they're so good at maths and sciences. They perfect things with their linear approaches to logic. And we've been giving away our creativity and inventions forever. It's time to start protecting what is important. We can find cheap labor elsewhere. |
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Taiwan
Aug 8, 2022 14:17:04 GMT -8
Post by vintagecomics on Aug 8, 2022 14:17:04 GMT -8
This combines your new post on China as well as this thread on Taiwan, but it's important to highlight WHY the US cares about Tawian so much. They don't. What they care about is having a US ally on China's borders, where they can spy on China in much the same way the Ukraine is being used against Russia. What better friend can you have than one who lives next to your enemy, takes all the heat as a buffer and allows you to exchange aid for a platform to spy from? And THAT is why the news (and the marketing of the intelligence agencies in the other thread) look as though they've pivoting against China. Duh. We've always known China is a problem. I've known it for decades so I'm sure US intelligence has.  All they're doing now is building public support to prepare the public for either war, sanctions or economic hardship that will come from these things. Just like they did with Russia. |
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Taiwan
Aug 8, 2022 15:05:43 GMT -8
Post by barry on Aug 8, 2022 15:05:43 GMT -8
This combines your new post on China as well as this thread on Taiwan, but it's important to highlight WHY the US cares about Tawian so much. They don't. What they care about is having a US ally on China's borders, where they can spy on China in much the same way the Ukraine is being used against Russia. What better friend can you have than one who lives next to your enemy, takes all the heat as a buffer and allows you to exchange aid for a platform to spy from? And THAT is why the news (and the marketing of the intelligence agencies in the other thread) look as though they've pivoting against China. Duh. We've always known China is a problem. I've known it for decades so I'm sure US intelligence has. All they're doing now is building public support to prepare the public for either war, sanctions or economic hardship that will come from these things. Just like they did with Russia. The US cares about Democratic countries and has always supported them. China has only recently been viewed as our number one threat/enemy. Since the days of Nixon the US assumed that trade and wealth would make China a gentle giant. That tactic didn't work, and those days are over. China used the US, and it's shameful that it's taken this long to come to that realization. We were duped. The attention has genuinely pivoted to China. China is watching what is happening to Russia and has realized the size of the stick we wield. |
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Taiwan
Aug 8, 2022 21:18:09 GMT -8
Post by vintagecomics on Aug 8, 2022 21:18:09 GMT -8
This combines your new post on China as well as this thread on Taiwan, but it's important to highlight WHY the US cares about Tawian so much. They don't. What they care about is having a US ally on China's borders, where they can spy on China in much the same way the Ukraine is being used against Russia. What better friend can you have than one who lives next to your enemy, takes all the heat as a buffer and allows you to exchange aid for a platform to spy from? And THAT is why the news (and the marketing of the intelligence agencies in the other thread) look as though they've pivoting against China. Duh. We've always known China is a problem. I've known it for decades so I'm sure US intelligence has. All they're doing now is building public support to prepare the public for either war, sanctions or economic hardship that will come from these things. Just like they did with Russia. The US cares about Democratic countries and has always supported them. China has only recently been viewed as our number one threat/enemy. Since the days of Nixon the US assumed that trade and wealth would make China a gentle giant. That tactic didn't work, and those days are over. China used the US, and it's shameful that it's taken this long to come to that realization. We were duped. The attention has genuinely pivoted to China. China is watching what is happening to Russia and has realized the size of the stick we wield. I think the US knew all along how large of a threat China was. The 'Red threat' has always been present. Everyone knew how large of a threat China was. I mean, just look at how the virus out of Wuhan was initially treated with stories of biological warfare, etc. Those sorts of stories ran (whether true or not) because the suspected malicious position of China towards the West. And that was 3 years ago now. So how couldn't the Us? This entire 'new change' is just stage theater to influence public opinion. ---------------------- And I'll disagree with you. I don't think the US cares about democratic countries. I think the US only 'cares' about democratic countries (Iraq, Kosovo, Ukraine, Taiwan) that are strategically and / or economically important to the US. If they cared about democratic countries, there are plenty around the world that need their help that NOBODY is talking about. The entire continent of Africa is rife with corruption threatening democracy. How much do you hear about them in the news? |
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Taiwan
Aug 9, 2022 4:40:32 GMT -8
Post by barry on Aug 9, 2022 4:40:32 GMT -8
The US cares about Democratic countries and has always supported them. China has only recently been viewed as our number one threat/enemy. Since the days of Nixon the US assumed that trade and wealth would make China a gentle giant. That tactic didn't work, and those days are over. China used the US, and it's shameful that it's taken this long to come to that realization. We were duped. The attention has genuinely pivoted to China. China is watching what is happening to Russia and has realized the size of the stick we wield. I think the US knew all along how large of a threat China was. The 'Red threat' has always been present. Everyone knew how large of a threat China was. I mean, just look at how the virus out of Wuhan was initially treated with stories of biological warfare, etc. Those sorts of stories ran (whether true or not) because the suspected malicious position of China towards the West. And that was 3 years ago now. So how couldn't the Us? This entire 'new change' is just stage theater to influence public opinion. ---------------------- And I'll disagree with you. I don't think the US cares about democratic countries. I think the US only 'cares' about democratic countries (Iraq, Kosovo, Ukraine, Taiwan) that are strategically and / or economically important to the US. If they cared about democratic countries, there are plenty around the world that need their help that NOBODY is talking about. The entire continent of Africa is rife with corruption threatening democracy. How much do you hear about them in the news? Of course China has always been viewed as a threat. We've been at war with them in the past. But they never rose to Soviet-era threat level until recently. That has justified additional security measures. Taiwan is just one area in the South China Sea that could explode into actual conflict. There are many more, and not just with the US. Watch Japan's defense budget rise in response to China's power plays in the region. I could be wrong, but I don't think Americans need theater wrt China. Most Americans already intensely dislike China, and I think Trump's trade sanctions against China were viewed favorably except for some in the extreme Left. And there's no need for biological warfare theories when we have solid proof of Huawei. China cannot be trusted, and shouldn't be. The US provides aid to the world. We do more than any other country. Most of our help goes unnoticed because it has no strategic benefit to us. Do we pay more attention to areas that could hurt or help us the most? Of course. We'd be crazy not to. |
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