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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 22, 2021 8:47:45 GMT -8
And you did it with capital letters and punctuation! 
Thanks!
just to clarify, so about 60% of billings are awaiting adjudication but 36-38% of them are being rejected?  YES I DID. I NO LONGER CARE ABOUT PISSING OFF DONUT BY USING CAPS AND PUNCTUTION IN A MANNER THAT HE.....(AND TFITZ, WHO WAS CLUELESS ABOUT WHY I DID SO).....DEEM APPROPRIATE AND THAT DONUT FREQUENTLY COMPLAINED ABOUT AD NAUSEUM FOR NO OTHER REASON BUT TO BELITTLE AND THAT OFFENDED THE SCHOLASTIC ACHEIVERS BECUASE THEY JUMPED ON THE DONUT SHAMING BAMNDWAGON AND THAT NEVER DID PAY ATTENTION TO MY PUBLICLY STATED INTENT TO NOT USE CAPS, JUST TO  DONUT OFF. BY DOING SO, DONUT STOPPED HIS BS, AND SINCE I ALSO PUBLICLY STATED THAT I WILL NOT INTERACT WITH TFITZ I THINK I AM GOOD TO RETURN TO MY PREVIOUS SCHOLASTIC QUALITY LEVEL OF POSTS IN THE AREA OF CAPS AND PUNCTUATION. to avoid having to edit and to plagiarize without stating i am doing so, as dr. king stated and i paraphrase: "free at last, thank god i am free at last". As to the clarification; no, 60% are awaiting review/adjudication on initial billing, of which 38% are in appeal, after being adjudicated, or are finalized and paid at the adjudication decision rate. 
Amazing.
Yeah, I like Donut in real life but online he makes no sense at all. And ttfitz is someone I've tried to message with but once he saw my posts on here he backed out of the messages.
Everyone is so wound up about their politics that they actually can't think straight.
Thanks for the clarification...and the CAPS!
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 22, 2021 10:15:36 GMT -8
This is an interesting interview with Adam Wagner a UK human rights lawyer who talks about the legality of lockdowns.
I thought this was the most interesting part of the interview at the 3:44 mark but enjoyed the entire listen.
The main arguement around the legality of lockdowns is whether I am legally responsible for someone else's well being while going about my daily life.
Adam comments on this using the Napoleonic presumption of guilt.
The French Revolution's Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen declared that suspects were presumed to be innocent until they had been declared guilty by a court.
This is a paraphrase / transcript of video for the lazy:
Unherd: In terms of legal principle does having a lockdown breach a new ground, essentially treating everyone like they are a risk.
Adam Wagner: I don't think there is a legal precedent. I read somewhere that Matt Hancock (UK parliament) wanted the lockdown to be Napleonic in the sense that you are reversing the usual presumption that everything is legal unless it's explicitly disallowed, to the resumption that everything is illegal unless it's explicitly allowed.
And that's enormously different to the way normal people, ordinary people are bound by the laws. When you leave the house you have to look at a list of reasons why you can leave the house.
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 22, 2021 10:26:03 GMT -8
The problem with presuming everyone is 'guilty' or infected in this case is that it turns Western society's legal system on it's ear and opens the door to all sorts of ridiculous avenues that make no sense, but the greatest being that if we're all guilty before being found innocent then everyone is capable of being policed without due process as is happening right now during lockdown measures.
And you get stuff like this starting to happen: members of government looking to hold elected officials responsible for the deaths of constituents if they reopen too early.
Have we gone to far yet? This is ridiculous IMO
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Post by TupennyConan on Feb 23, 2021 4:26:02 GMT -8
An emergency law, especially one conferring emergency powers from government to government, is no law at all. It is the state of exception.
The Sovereign State of Exception.
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Post by parker1865 on Feb 23, 2021 4:44:47 GMT -8
Not to negate the posit, but to improve, maybe: Inception. Or, maybe: Conception. Or, maybe: Deception. Because, nothing, nothing at all, is ever an Exception when enacted by the government. An Exception is always, always a gateway to Inception, Conception or Deception, when the Government starting point is declared as Sovereign. Please note: I am clever.  |
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 23, 2021 7:22:23 GMT -8
That's exactly what the human rights lawyer has been saying in the video.
Once governments apply a law or an enactment it often is tougher to repeal it.
I think we are going to see a lot of law suits coming out of the pandemic. Law offices have been closed, even the courts have been closed. Once people get out there in the open there are going to be a lot of people who are going to challenge the legality of fines and lockdowns.
It's already happening.
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 23, 2021 18:50:59 GMT -8
People are getting tired of lockdowns on every front and more and more people are starting to change their minds on their effectiveness and cost.
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 24, 2021 21:43:03 GMT -8
So, I haven't followed the Covid infections news lately much because it's all the same garbage over and over again. I was following a news article recently and it was pretty shocking to hear these stats (in Canada of course). Apparently there are only 300 deaths for anyone under the age of 50 in Canada and only 4 people under the age of 20.  4 people under 20 died from Covid. They have more chance of dying while jaywalking. 97% of deaths are people over 60 and 80% of deaths are from long term care facilities. And none of the media is giving any balanced news.
This is from last June (Toronto Health) and when I posted it on the CGC forum last summer nobody said boo about it. I was skeptical at first but now I'm really starting to doubt how serious this pandemic is compared to how the media is portraying it.
How does any of this make any sense when looked at objectively?
We've had quick tests since last summer. Why aren't we using quick tests to test for people going in and out of long term care facilities and put the focus on them rather than the rest of the population, who have more chance of dying in a car accident than from Covid-19?
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Post by parker1865 on Feb 25, 2021 16:13:18 GMT -8
People are getting tired of lockdowns on every front and more and more people are starting to change their minds on their effectiveness and cost.
It is funny watching the California dems eating their Governor. Now he is draconian for locking down, and the good citizens of CA. are acing like the past POTUS: OPEN UP! GET RID OF THAT HYPOCRIT BUM! THROW HIM OUT! Business owners being interviewed all over the place spitting out spittle in between the stories of the harm he did with the draconian lock down rules, and then does the opposite himself. Funny as hell. I wonder if Ms. Pelosi, the Great Emancipatress is next. |
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 27, 2021 18:46:09 GMT -8
People are getting tired of lockdowns on every front and more and more people are starting to change their minds on their effectiveness and cost.
It is funny watching the California dems eating their Governor. Now he is draconian for locking down, and the good citizens of CA. are acing like the past POTUS: OPEN UP! GET RID OF THAT HYPOCRIT BUM! THROW HIM OUT! Business owners being interviewed all over the place spitting out spittle in between the stories of the harm he did with the draconian lock down rules, and then does the opposite himself. Funny as hell. I wonder if Ms. Pelosi, the Great Emancipatress is next. I've been listening to a lot of very interesting stuff coming from a group called 'The Intellectual Dark Web'
These guys are not a bunch of quacks. Quite the opposite, they are a bunch of very accomplished and accredited scientists from all over in various fields and they provide a bunch of fascinating insights into many areas of life from science to politics to everything in between.
What is most amazing is that they come from right across the political spectrum but all have a central ideology in that they are only interested in what's true and they tend to agree on many things.
That alone is worth pausing for.
In relation to this thread, they spend a lot of time talking about politics and how our politics are formed by our biology and psychology.
In fact, each person has biological and psychological traits that predispose them to either a left or a right leaning political choice. They can often accurately determine which way you are going to lean politically by your psychology.
The other thing they often discuss is how each group interacts with each other and one of the things that keep reoccuring in their discussions is how the left has a propensity to turn on itself eventually.
The thinking it this: the left is the humanitarian political part and because humanity has infinite intersectional possibilities eventually, they will conflict with each other.
Acc to them, that's a weakness that the right doesn't posses because they don't value the humanitarian aspect as much and place priorities on other areas of politics (like law and order). While having their own weaknesses, this isn't one of them.
I just thought it was a very interesting thought process in light of what's happening in California. I find the entire topic of biology / psychology / politics fascinating because if we can understand why we do things better we can understand how to get along better.
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Post by vintagecomics on Mar 1, 2021 14:54:01 GMT -8
There are a lot of "emperors" wearing no clothing these days out in the real world, and unfortunately that's hindering our ability to make solutions out in society.
This is an undeniable fact if you just a look at the way the pandemic has been handled in some Western countries. The battle against the pandemic has been straddled with disagreements hindering any progress when our progress should have been focused and at the greatest point in modern times.
I think one reason for this is that the politicizing and weaponizing of everything is creating such a divide between sides that we've lost the ability to communicate honestly with each other.
That's why I found this YouTube podcast by UnHerd so refreshing.
They took 2 senior members of the British parliament, one from the left and one from the right, and had a frank non-partisan discussion about the failures of the battle against the pandemic.
If anyone wants a listen I'd recommend it.
Both members agree that we have done terrible damage to society through excessive lockdown measures and those damages done to society will likely be felt in the public space for years to come.
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Post by parker1865 on Mar 1, 2021 16:15:31 GMT -8
There are a lot of "emperors" wearing no clothing these days out in the real world, and unfortunately that's hindering our ability to make solutions out in society.
This is an undeniable fact if you just a look at the way the pandemic has been handled in some Western countries. The battle against the pandemic has been straddled with disagreements hindering any progress when our progress should have been focused and at the greatest point in modern times.
I think one reason for this is that the politicizing and weaponizing of everything is creating such a divide between sides that we've lost the ability to communicate honestly with each other.
That's why I found this YouTube podcast by UnHerd so refreshing.
They took 2 senior members of the British parliament, one from the left and one from the right, and had a frank non-partisan discussion about the failures of the battle against the pandemic.
If anyone wants a listen I'd recommend it.
Both members agree that we have done terrible damage to society through excessive lockdown measures and those damages done to society will likely be felt in the public space for years to come.
It is not necessary to look that far. Simply read the CGC thread. The sanctimonious bs and intentional shaming and moral superiority post re. abortion was so over the top it is incredible it was even considered as a reply to the point being made, that tth and his empathy bs was and is just that...bs. When was the last time Jay posted? I think that was a shaming attempt post also. It is laughable. But, throw in a few "personal knowledge" examples, and the member replying to tth's asinine post is supposed to fall on his sword? Or I am to humbly beg forgiveness and explain by PM? Yep, I will get right on that, sorry boss, I will be better next time, boss. Exactly what the hell does that abortion story have to do with anything at all concerning the member it was directed at, and his valid point, or the post by tth being responded to? Drama, for no useful purpose but to try to publicly shame someone. This from the same guy that dismissed Rabbi Funye as not being recognized by the Faith or "accepted", and didn't even know who Rabbi Funye was, and Jay and Bob assuming I was making fun of the Faith, and then had to defend themselves like cornered rats when it was explained to them who he was, and his race, and asked why the Faith was not accepting an honored Rabbi? Funny thing, that post reply was pulled. So, Jay, want to know something? Ask over here, I will be glad to explain. Bring my main man Randall and the "we are all gonna die" guy Janet with you, so I don't have to explain again. While we are at it, do you have any empathy for the intentional death of 600,000-800,000 humans? Yes, yes, I read your reason for being personally offended. Now, the facts: less than 1/2% of abortions are due to rape. 3% are due to fetal health. 4% are due to physical health. If you are going to be sanctimonious, at least state the facts, instead of being disingenuous and phony, by implying the member replying to tth was cruel and callous and the deaths of 600,000-800,000 humans are due to rape/fetal health and/or physical health, when the post was obviously a satirical reply to the nonsense tth post about the lack of empathy. You know that, but you were just shaming for drama. Something else, you cancel culture azz: My child was aborted. Severance, 1970, Thalidomide baby.... U.S. Army Physicians treating violent morning sickness causing hemorrhage , and prescribed meds that caused fetal heart failure in the womb. 7 months old. Treated in a Huey EVAC. Had to get him out of the womb, to save his mother. His name was Michael Arthur, you SOB. So, take your shaming posts elsewhere.. And please don't say you are sorry. Don't you dare. That would be incredibly offensive coming from you. Not to mention, if Mike's Mom read your ignorant posts, you would have some splainin' to do. I could not be there. I was otherwise engaged in other duties that prevented geographical complexities of transportation being feasible. That is OK. A Col., a Chaplin, stood in for me and performed Last Rites. Knowing your propensity for "proof"...in this case...of non-life, I will post the signed death record, if you want. Just so you will shut up and not post stupid assumptions. This is the first time I have shared anything about my family and it will be the last. Know this, if I laugh at a post, I have a damn good reason for doing so, and there won't be any explanation forthcoming. |
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Post by vintagecomics on Mar 1, 2021 17:06:44 GMT -8
There are a lot of "emperors" wearing no clothing these days out in the real world, and unfortunately that's hindering our ability to make solutions out in society.
It is not necessary to look that far. Simply read the CGC thread. The sanctimonious bs and intentional shaming and moral superiority post re. abortion was so over the top it is incredible it was even considered as a reply to the point being made, that tth and his empathy bs was and is just that...bs. When was the last time Jay posted? I think that was a shaming attempt post also. It is laughable. But, throw in a few "personal knowledge" examples, and the member replying to tth's asinine post is supposed to fall on his sword? Or I am to humbly beg forgiveness and explain by PM? Yep, I will get right on that, sorry boss, I will be better next time, boss. Exactly what the hell does that abortion story have to do with anything at all concerning the member it was directed at, and his valid point, or the post by tth being responded to? Drama, for no useful purpose but to try to publicly shame someone. This from the same guy that dismissed Rabbi Funye as not being recognized by the Faith or "accepted", and didn't even know who Rabbi Funye was, and Jay and Bob assuming I was making fun of the Faith, and then had to defend themselves like cornered rats when it was explained to them who he was, and his race, and asked why the Faith was not accepting an honored Rabbi? Funny thing, that post reply was pulled. So, Jay, want to know something? Ask over here, I will be glad to explain. Bring my main man Randall and the "we are all gonna die" guy Janet with you, so I don't have to explain again. While we are at it, do you have any empathy for the intentional death of 600,000-800,000 humans? Yes, yes, I read your reason for being personally offended. Now, the facts: less than 1/2% of abortions are due to rape. 3% are due to fetal health. 4% are due to physical health. If you are going to be sanctimonious, at least state the facts, instead of being disingenuous and phony, by implying the member replying to tth was cruel and callous and the deaths of 600,000-800,000 humans are due to rape/fetal health and/or physical health, when the post was obviously a satirical reply to the nonsense tth post about the lack of empathy. You know that, but you were just shaming for drama. Something else, you cancel culture azz: My child was aborted. Severance, 1970, Thalidomide baby.... U.S. Army Physicians treating violent morning sickness causing hemorrhage , and prescribed meds that caused fetal heart failure in the womb. 7 months old. Treated in a Huey EVAC. Had to get him out of the womb, to save his mother. His name was Michael Arthur, you SOB. So, take your shaming posts elsewhere.. And please don't say you are sorry. Don't you dare. That would be incredibly offensive coming from you. Not to mention, if Mike's Mom read your ignorant posts, you would have some splainin' to do. I could not be there. I was otherwise engaged in other duties that prevented geographical complexities of transportation being feasible. That is OK. A Col., a Chaplin, stood in for me and performed Last Rites. Knowing your propensity for "proof"...in this case...of non-life, I will post the signed death record, if you want. Just so you will shut up and not post stupid assumptions. This is the first time I have shared anything about my family and it will be the last. Know this, if I laugh at a post, I have a damn good reason for doing so, and there won't be any explanation forthcoming. I'm sad to hear about your Son. I struggle to think of anything worse in this world than a parent losing a child.
It's the only thing that terrifies me in this life. I'm not afraid of much else. Not even an angry mob. 
That thread is mainly just a gathering of negative people.
I had a lot typed out here but I said I'd back off from bashing them anymore so I won't.
I have not once posted anything to be spiteful or disrespectful or to be a rabble rouser and all I get labelled as is trying to derail the thread.
I'll be seeing those guys at shows again and I guarantee you they won't have half the manhood in person as they do on the internet. They never do.
For what it's worth, bababboey's parallel between abortions and CV-19 is a discussion worth having but only with people who are able to converse. I didn't want to get involved because there was too much crossfire going on and I was only gong to make it worse.
I agree that the pear lclutching by Jaybuck and others was much ado about nothing. Nobody was laughing at abortions or death. It was more laughing at their ridiculous responses but this ultra-leftist, use anything at your disposable as ammo mentality will do anything to create something to be offended over.
None of them have the courage to have a real conversation without some sort of 'backup' be it other board members or the moderators. If they did, they'd have been here by now.
Today was a great day because it revealed a lot and for that, I'm grateful.
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Post by parker1865 on Mar 1, 2021 17:18:17 GMT -8
I certainly appreciate your condolences, as does my bride (I shared the issue with her....honor in all things), and your words, just now. I realize they are words of sincerity.
We will let Mike know tonight, when we talk with him.
The balance of your comments, I concur.
I do not have your level of forgiveness of all things, and can't quite bring myself to be as accepting. It is a admirable trait.
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Post by vintagecomics on Mar 1, 2021 17:30:10 GMT -8
I certainly appreciate your condolences, as does my bride (I shared the issue with her....honor in all things), and your words, just now. I realize they are words of sincerity. We will let Mike know tonight, when we talk with him. The balance of your comments, I concur. I do not have your level of forgiveness of all things, and can't quite bring myself to be as accepting. It is a admirable trait. We all have great losses in our lives. To me, nothing that compares to losing a child but at this age I've spent a lot of time in my 50 years trying to learn from my past painful experiences and one thing I have learned is that I've also made my share of mistakes so I need forgiveness as well.
I also think we (the collective we) don't spend enough time reminding ourselves that others on the internet are still people, and I've expended a lot of effort trying to remind myself of that when I interact with them.
I actually broke down into tears after reading that. Thanks for sharing your story with me. It certainly put a lot of today's actions into perspective for me.
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