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Post by kav on Dec 6, 2023 13:28:16 GMT -8
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 6, 2023 13:34:01 GMT -8
All cause mortality has risen since 2021 in ALL COUNTRIES and it's NOT RELATED TO COVID. More young Americans are dying – and it's not COVID. Why aren't we searching for answers?In Canada, deaths in 2021 and 2022 have taken off, just like in all countries (New Zealand hasn't published their data for years now). www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/71-607-x/71-607-x2021028-eng.htmSo until someone can explain why, and since it is being shown that Pfizer's trials weren't fairly represented and side effects and death are HIGHER than people were led to believe, it's reasonable and RESPONSIBLE to ask if it was the vaccines. This data is still emerging but I have no problem believing 5% of New Zealand's vaccinated have died. You're the new Dr. Google on these forums, just like namisgr was on the CGC forums. You just Google specious answers to things without understood the full system being talked about. I didn't Google anything. I just added up the numbers YOU posted. Wrong Again Roy. So 5 people out of every 100 have died due to the vaccines in New Zealand - that's what this dude is claiming and you're agreeing. Got it. You're putting words in my mouth. Read the inital post again. |
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Post by Prince Namor on Dec 6, 2023 14:35:49 GMT -8
I didn't Google anything. I just added up the numbers YOU posted. Wrong Again Roy. So 5 people out of every 100 have died due to the vaccines in New Zealand - that's what this dude is claiming and you're agreeing. Got it. You're putting words in my mouth. Read the inital post again. I'm very literally NOT. "This data is still emerging but I have no problem believing 5% of New Zealand's vaccinated have died. " |
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Post by kav on Dec 6, 2023 14:37:07 GMT -8
keep in mind if someone vaccinated dies, that does not mean the vaccine killed them.
Correlation is not causation.
Conspiracy dolts never seem to grasp this.
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Post by Prince Namor on Dec 6, 2023 14:37:45 GMT -8
Where's your Zod proof, slugger. Still waiting on it.
Come on and give us more Roy BS that doesn't add up.
Give us some more of your 'proof' based on what you WANT to be true.
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Post by Prince Namor on Dec 6, 2023 14:42:02 GMT -8
keep in mind if someone vaccinated dies, that does not mean the vaccine killed them. Correlation is not causation. Conspiracy dolts never seem to grasp this. Exactly. EXACTLY. It's PROOF to conspiracy nuts - and just additional data for consideration by anyone with critical reasoning skills. |
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Post by quantumcomics on Dec 6, 2023 14:42:19 GMT -8
Where's your Zod proof, slugger. Still waiting on it. Come on and give us more Roy BS that doesn't add up. Give us some more of your 'proof' based on what you WANT to be true. He claims a "study" was done...I thought he had no time between living the life of a rock star / porn star / comics dealer? |
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Post by kav on Dec 6, 2023 14:43:10 GMT -8
Where's your Zod proof, slugger. Still waiting on it. Come on and give us more Roy BS that doesn't add up. Give us some more of your 'proof' based on what you WANT to be true. Your posting style is so different from Zod's I cant think how it could be more different. You dont refer to yourself in the third person, for one thing. absurd. |
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Post by kav on Dec 6, 2023 14:44:24 GMT -8
Where's your Zod proof, slugger. Still waiting on it. Come on and give us more Roy BS that doesn't add up. Give us some more of your 'proof' based on what you WANT to be true. He claims a "study" was done...I thought he had no time between living the life of a rock star / porn star / comics dealer? who did the study-all the 'experts' he knows, doctors, people who support him in PMs, or 'people who know him"- |
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Post by quantumcomics on Dec 6, 2023 15:02:57 GMT -8
He claims a "study" was done...I thought he had no time between living the life of a rock star / porn star / comics dealer? who did the study-all the 'experts' he knows, doctors, people who support him in PMs, or 'people who know him"- I'm guessing project veritas. |
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 6, 2023 15:55:18 GMT -8
You're putting words in my mouth. Read the inital post again. I'm very literally NOT. "This data is still emerging but I have no problem believing 5% of New Zealand's vaccinated have died. " You are now conflating the words from my 2nd reply into the discussion, but I didn't state that when you first replied to the New Zealand post....and you still didn't acknowledge that people are dying in ways that nobody can explain. I didn't say people ARE dying from the vaccines in that post. I'm saying it's within the realm of possibility. It needs to be investigated. You're going straight to conclusions I never made. You also didn't acknowledge that the point of the Fauci CNN post was not the study but focused on the study anyway. This is the lack of logic I'm talking about. You are always talking about things that I'm not talking about and you did it when you were Zod too. You can't hide this sort of lack of logic. It comes through in everything you write. |
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Post by Prince Namor on Dec 6, 2023 20:15:55 GMT -8
I'm very literally NOT. "This data is still emerging but I have no problem believing 5% of New Zealand's vaccinated have died. " You are now conflating the words from my 2nd reply into the discussion, but I didn't state that when you first replied to the New Zealand post....and you still didn't acknowledge that people are dying in ways that nobody can explain. I didn't say people ARE dying from the vaccines in that post. I'm saying it's within the realm of possibility. It needs to be investigated. You're going straight to conclusions I never made. You also didn't acknowledge that the point of the Fauci CNN post was not the study but focused on the study anyway. This is the lack of logic I'm talking about. You are always talking about things that I'm not talking about and you did it when you were Zod too. You can't hide this sort of lack of logic. It comes through in everything you write. No, Roy. You saying "it's within the realm of possibility" that 5% of the population of New Zealand is dying", is YOU presenting it as something you believe could be happening. MEANING, you don't believe it's out of the question and if investigated, COULD be true. And I'm saying: That's ridiculous. The fact that you've been harping on this crap for 2 years, would lead ANYONE to believe that was your goal. You're not FOOLING anyone. As far as what Fauci said, I'm not going to play 'gotcha' with off hand remarks in some silly interview. He CLEARLY states that there have been plenty of studies done and some say it's effective, some say it's not. YOU have completely ignored this part of the study - that was IN the actual written report:
“The high risk of bias in the trials, variation in outcome measurement, and relatively low adherence with the interventions during the studies hampers drawing firm conclusions,” the authors wrote. “The low to moderate certainty of evidence means our confidence in the effect estimate is limited, and that the true effect may be different from the observed estimate of the effect.”In other words, there isn’t good evidence from randomized controlled trials that encouraging mask use in the community prevents the spread of respiratory diseases, but the issue also hasn’t been studied very well. So the real answer is unknown. THAT is their conclusion. Again, you just focus on what YOU want to believe and convienatly leave out FACTS, and then  about "You're not focusing on just what I want to say!" That's sheer lunacy, for anyone to do. The added part of it is, that you think I'm this Zod person is just another misdirection by you - I've already said - where's your PROOF? You said you had PROOF. So go ahead and POST it, slugger. I TELLING YOU TO! But you won't. Because you DON'T. Because you CAN'T. Because I'm NOT. Triple Duh, genius. Seriously, is there anyone here who thinks I HOLD BACK my opinions so much I need to go disguise myself as someone else on here? Oh hell, I'm not saying ENOUGH offensive crap, I'll disguise myself as someone else.  . Have another piece of fruitcake, champ. You're out of your mind. |
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Post by kav on Dec 6, 2023 20:20:42 GMT -8
He's probably going with the logic of "Its within the realm of possibility that you are Zod"
Its not, but that doesnt stop 'im.
His 'realm of possibility" only includes stuff he believes. Outside of that, absolutely NOTHING is within the realm of possibility.
Such a symphony of stupidity.
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 6, 2023 21:18:27 GMT -8
He's probably going with the logic of "Its within the realm of possibility that you are Zod" Oh no, he was almost surely Zod. And I don't even read most of his posts anymore. |
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Post by Prince Namor on Dec 6, 2023 23:27:59 GMT -8
He's probably going with the logic of "Its within the realm of possibility that you are Zod" Oh no, he was almost surely Zod. And I don't even read most of his posts anymore. So I thought you had Proof there, zippy? What happened to that? More LIES from Roy. You have a habit of boast posting and yet never backing it up. |
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about "You're not focusing on just what I want to say!"
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