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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on Oct 15, 2019 9:35:14 GMT -8
It appears CBCS's VSP program authenticated a printed McFarlane Sig 
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 13:30:09 GMT -8
It appears CBCS's VSP program authenticated a printed McFarlane Sig  It's like a never ending circus with them. 
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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on Oct 15, 2019 15:15:37 GMT -8
It appears CBCS's VSP program authenticated a printed McFarlane Sig  It's like a never ending circus with them.  I suppose it's possible the OO had TM sign under the printed sig, I mean, if they didn't care how silly it would look.
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Post by 50 Fiddy on Oct 15, 2019 18:45:38 GMT -8
It's like a never ending circus with them.  I suppose it's possible the OO had TM sign under the printed sig, I mean, if they didn't care how silly it would look. I guess it's possible, but probably not very likely considering how people love signatures on the cover.
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Oct 29, 2019 17:05:30 GMT -8
It appears CBCS's VSP program authenticated a printed McFarlane Sig 
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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on Oct 29, 2019 18:04:33 GMT -8
It appears CBCS's VSP program authenticated a printed McFarlane Sig  I like that there wasn't a summary or speech at the end- Just a, "Ball's in your court, CBCS" look. There's a few apologists trying to smooth thing over, last I saw. "Mistakes happen." I won't be surprised if he's compensated with submission discounts.
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Oct 30, 2019 15:07:56 GMT -8
I like that there wasn't a summary or speech at the end- Just a, "Ball's in your court, CBCS" look. There's a few apologists trying to smooth thing over, last I saw. "Mistakes happen." I won't be surprised if he's compensated with submission discounts. Yeah, it's the same at CGC where they use the terms 'Label Error' or 'Quality Control Problem' to cover up major screw-ups. In this case, at CBCS you have a printed signature fooling the authentication process on the heels of a printed defect fooling the graders.
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Jun 23, 2020 6:47:14 GMT -8
I was reading this thread today and realized that most of the source material has disappeared - this is the problem with Facebook and eBay links. Here's an update from what is still available: The Todd McFarlane-Signed, Slabbed and Certified Spawn… That Wasn't*The video is no longer available. Here's a closer look at the printed signature that was verified... 
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Jun 24, 2020 6:43:11 GMT -8
Here's front and back pics of the slab. link 
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Post by steveinthecity on Jul 8, 2020 18:56:50 GMT -8
Posted earlier in a thread discussing red vs. yellow label (VSP vs. Witnessed): forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/12314/page/4/verified-now-yellow-labels/“The answer quite simply is that it did not happen. The book was purchased by a board member who did the entire thing on video and confirmed the inside signature was indeed printed . Steve Borock himself looked into the entire affair and was able to determine that someone had accidentally marked the wrong box on the form, which allowed the book to receive the incorrect label, if I understood correctly. It was a simple mistake , that was quickly and easily explained. Bottom line is the printed signature was not verified, it was human error in the I believe, the form or paperwork. I cannot remember the exact specifics, but I do know I watched this entire thing carefully. I think if someone is going to challenge a companys credibility and do so publicly that the facts should be well established prior to doing so, to avoid possible legal ramifications. Just saying...”
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Jul 9, 2020 7:07:36 GMT -8
Posted earlier in a thread discussing red vs. yellow label (VSP vs. Witnessed): forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/12314/page/4/verified-now-yellow-labels/“The answer quite simply is that it did not happen. The book was purchased by a board member who did the entire thing on video and confirmed the inside signature was indeed printed . Steve Borock himself looked into the entire affair and was able to determine that someone had accidentally marked the wrong box on the form, which allowed the book to receive the incorrect label, if I understood correctly. It was a simple mistake , that was quickly and easily explained. Bottom line is the printed signature was not verified, it was human error in the I believe, the form or paperwork. I cannot remember the exact specifics, but I do know I watched this entire thing carefully. I think if someone is going to challenge a companys credibility and do so publicly that the facts should be well established prior to doing so, to avoid possible legal ramifications. Just saying...” I tell you what, normally I'd say, "Yeah right, a likely story." And then I'd roll my eyes and offer to sell you a bridge, since grading companies are forever blaming embarrassing mistakes on 'Label Errors.' But in this case, I actually believe Borock. I've looked at tons of CBCS verified signatures, and any that are not on the cover are always (or at least all the ones I've seen) noted on the inside page that they appear. In this case, the label did not do this - it was using the same format used for a cover signature. So I believe it was an actual label error, rather than a signature verification error. Having said that, there's no excuse for label errors either, since each one depreciates the reputation of the grading company and all extant graded comics.
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