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Post by kav on Dec 28, 2023 11:47:55 GMT -8
Roy: "I never notify posts" Mike: Roy has reported on over 20 posts in under 48 hours. His own words repeatedly come back to bite him in the a**. He learns nothing from this. |
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Post by kav on Dec 28, 2023 11:49:37 GMT -8
A 6 month ban on the CGC boards has just come down for Vintage and this is the first time I've ever seen a cumulative ban that doesn't single out a specific incident. This combined with his last suspension which was 3 months means he'll have been suspended from the CGC boards for 9 out of 12 months...combining that with his multiple suspensions as the pandemic was going on makes me wonder what one has to do to actually get permanently banned. Who here actually thinks that the 9 months off from posting there will make him reflect on his behavior? Who here thinks this will actually make him triple down and believe he's always right and always persecuted? He will never reflect on his behavior ever because in his mind there is nothing to reflect on he is RIGHT. Its just those darn bad actors. He will quadruple down-here-where he can post. Brace yourselves boys. |
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Post by jsilverjanet on Dec 28, 2023 11:56:28 GMT -8
A 6 month ban on the CGC boards has just come down for Vintage and this is the first time I've ever seen a cumulative ban that doesn't single out a specific incident. This combined with his last suspension which was 3 months means he'll have been suspended from the CGC boards for 9 out of 12 months...combining that with his multiple suspensions as the pandemic was going on makes me wonder what one has to do to actually get permanently banned. Who here actually thinks that the 9 months off from posting there will make him reflect on his behavior? Who here thinks this will actually make him triple down and believe he's always right and always persecuted? maybe he needs to PM Mike to get this sorted out
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Post by Buzzetta on Dec 28, 2023 11:56:58 GMT -8
A 6 month ban on the CGC boards has just come down for Vintage and this is the first time I've ever seen a cumulative ban that doesn't single out a specific incident. This combined with his last suspension which was 3 months means he'll have been suspended from the CGC boards for 9 out of 12 months...combining that with his multiple suspensions as the pandemic was going on makes me wonder what one has to do to actually get permanently banned. Who here actually thinks that the 9 months off from posting there will make him reflect on his behavior? Who here thinks this will actually make him triple down and believe he's always right and always persecuted? He will never reflect on his behavior ever because in his mind there is nothing to reflect on he is RIGHT. Its just those darn bad actors. He will quadruple down-here-where he can post. Brace yourselves boys. There are many many, many, many, more historical posts I can offer up to drown out his nonsense here as well. I have not even finished posting the Federalist Papers. |
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Post by Buzzetta on Dec 28, 2023 11:57:33 GMT -8
A 6 month ban on the CGC boards has just come down for Vintage and this is the first time I've ever seen a cumulative ban that doesn't single out a specific incident. This combined with his last suspension which was 3 months means he'll have been suspended from the CGC boards for 9 out of 12 months...combining that with his multiple suspensions as the pandemic was going on makes me wonder what one has to do to actually get permanently banned. Who here actually thinks that the 9 months off from posting there will make him reflect on his behavior? Who here thinks this will actually make him triple down and believe he's always right and always persecuted? maybe he needs to PM Mike to get this sorted out
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 28, 2023 12:06:03 GMT -8
A 6 month ban on the CGC boards has just come down for Vintage and this is the first time I've ever seen a cumulative ban that doesn't single out a specific incident. This combined with his last suspension which was 3 months means he'll have been suspended from the CGC boards for 9 out of 12 months...combining that with his multiple suspensions as the pandemic was going on makes me wonder what one has to do to actually get permanently banned. Who here actually thinks that the 9 months off from posting there will make him reflect on his behavior? Who here thinks this will actually make him triple down and believe he's always right and always persecuted? Buzzetta, Prince Namor, jsilverjanet (as well as namisgr and a few others) were all going out of their way to try to get under my skin. They know they were.  Mike sent me this message a month ago.  He specifically asked me not to engage and to try by hitting the notify button. He told me to 'trust him'.  I stopped engaging several of them and only hit notify button and he gave me the ban hammer for notifying. I'm definitely 'surprised in the results'.  |
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 28, 2023 12:14:17 GMT -8
It seems to me if the seller sold books that later got an additional 45% and the next person to buy the books made "a ton", then the seller was a novice and objectively had NO IDEA what the books were worth. The bottom line is that the dealer undergraded and undervalued the books and the person who's better at grading than 99.9% of people in the hobby did nothing to dissuade him...even though he had a strong suspicion that the books would grade out much better and therefore cha ching. I know what he paid for the group of books and I know what the #1 sold for and if I were that dealer I would've thrown up, several times. Life changing money for a lot of people. Your story is twisting the truth. The dealer didn't grade the books. There was just a price on the lot. And this deal was done almost a decade ago. I'm a much better grader now than I was then. As someone who has left MORE money on the table than this dealer did in a deal, I handled it very differently when it happened to me. I screamed at the sky, but chalked it up to a learning experience and expected nothing in return. I learned from it and moved on. The only "cha ching" here is that the dealer didn't do his due diligence, and the only person responsible for that is that dealer himself. |
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Post by quantumcomics on Dec 28, 2023 12:24:44 GMT -8
Never argued that the dealer didn't know what he was doing.
You didn't do anything illegal in this situation, not arguing that either.
The situation is just another example of your character, or lack of it, that's all.
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Post by Cat on Dec 28, 2023 12:25:50 GMT -8
"It wasn't a problem until other people alerted the guy I'd ripped him off, okay? Why couldn't they have just left it alone?" BTW Roy, you think that headline is wacky, for us it's just another Thursday post from you. Cat, I just saw in the Jimjum12 thread that you have a need for medications and have trouble affording them. I didn't realize you were ill, so for that reason I'm going to stop arguing with you. Hope all is well. Roy, please don't do this to me. Please don't 'other' me because I'm different. That's the worst feeling in the world, and I know you're well-intentioned, but it has the complete opposite effect of what you hope. You want to treat me well, taking into account my chronic illness? Treat me the exact same way as you did before you found out, the way you treat everyone else. For the record I have severe fibromyalgia, liver and kidney problems, I don't synthesise cortisol as I should and my body doesn't absorb salt. I'm one of the few people alive whose doctor prescribed them potato chips. But it's all relative. There's a million people who'd love to trade up to my illness, and consider me lucky. It could always be worse. |
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Post by Buzzetta on Dec 28, 2023 12:38:15 GMT -8
A 6 month ban on the CGC boards has just come down for Vintage and this is the first time I've ever seen a cumulative ban that doesn't single out a specific incident. This combined with his last suspension which was 3 months means he'll have been suspended from the CGC boards for 9 out of 12 months...combining that with his multiple suspensions as the pandemic was going on makes me wonder what one has to do to actually get permanently banned. Who here actually thinks that the 9 months off from posting there will make him reflect on his behavior? Who here thinks this will actually make him triple down and believe he's always right and always persecuted? Buzzetta, Prince Namor, jsilverjanet (as well as namisgr and a few others) were all going out of their way to try to get under my skin. They know they were. Mike sent me this message a month ago. He specifically asked me not to engage and to try by hitting the notify button. He told me to 'trust him'. I stopped engaging several of them and only hit notify button and he gave me the ban hammer for notifying. I'm definitely 'surprised in the results'. Right. It's everyone else. You are the victim. Well, good thing you won't be the victim until almost the end of June. You should thank Mike for providing you the means to be protected from everyone else by banning you for six months. Now you are protected from everyone by being here and not there. Consider it Mike doing you a favor. |
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Post by Buzzetta on Dec 28, 2023 12:39:06 GMT -8
And back to our regularly schedule programming.
2024 looks like it's going to be a good year.
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Post by kav on Dec 28, 2023 12:40:41 GMT -8
And back to our regularly schedule programming. 2024 looks like it's going to be a good year.  |
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 28, 2023 12:43:31 GMT -8
Never argued that the dealer didn't know what he was doing. You didn't do anything illegal in this situation, not arguing that either. The situation is just another example of your character, or lack of it, that's all. Ah, so now we're literally hanging your entire argument on the razor-thin string that I did something wrong simply by buying the books he offered. Well, that's going to be a really tough argument to support but I guess at the very least, I should thank you for obsolving me of all the other rumors.  I didn't do anything unethical or immoral, no matter how hard you try to twist it. He literally pulled me aside, offered me the books, we mutually agreed and struck an amicable deal on the batch of books. That's it. It wasn't until AFTER the fact that the stories started. It was all spurred by jealousy and envy but the only person to blame is the seller himself. If I'd held the losing end of the stick, and let say for instance if the #1's cover crease ended up getting worse when pressed, whose loss would that be? Mine. Would I have any recourse? No. That's capitalism. ---------------------------------------------- You're all saying that as a buyer, I should have helped the seller price his books better. What YOU ALL are advocating for, is communism. jsilverjanet going back to that store to "educate" the seller? He's using his PERSONAL relationship to manipulate the seller and get in on the BUSINESS deal. That's sneaky, sneaky behavior. This dealer learned a lesson and profited from that lesson. I did too. That's life and that is the only proper way forward in a free market. That is why life is great. It gets better over time if you allow it to. |
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Post by Prince Namor on Dec 28, 2023 12:43:32 GMT -8
And even haggled down the ask. That is the most laughable part of all. Anyone want to know how and when and where Roy is at NYCC? All you have to do is be in front of a table with your back to the floor, or be sifting through boxes and you will hear other dealers say, "(Expletive of your choice) It's Roy. Just smile." or something like that. But all of these people are haters and backstabbers. Yeah, okay there. There's nothing wrong with haggling especially when all the risk is on the buyer. It's common practice among almost all dealers, but most actually nickel and dime far worse than just 10%. In a situation like that, where the buyer assumes all the risk and the seller assumes none, negotiation is an expected part of the business. If someone is buying slabbed books and getting a known quality, it would have been a very different deal, but with raw books ALL the risk is on the buyer. If the buyer misses a popped staple or some other defect, it's ALL ON THE BUYER. BULL  . You're such a disingenuous liar. You know, and WE ALL KNOW, that when you're dealing with a WELL KNOWN dealer, especially someone YOU said you were friendly with - if you were to buy something that turned out to be color tocuhed or was missing a page - they would take care of you on it.
Other than that... there was ZERO risk that you were NOT going to sell a Hulk #1. In capitalism a deal is always a negotiation and if the two can't agree on terms, a deal isn't met. In tyranny and communism, it's when one person pushes the values onto the other person, which is what you actually are espousing. Values? You mean like keeping a secret that you knew that book was super hot and had just sold at an astronomical bump?
The seller was not a novice, had all the info they needed and willingly agreed to do the deal. That's all that matters. He DIDN'T have all the info he needed, because YOU kept it from him. |
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 28, 2023 12:44:41 GMT -8
Buzzetta, Prince Namor, jsilverjanet (as well as namisgr and a few others) were all going out of their way to try to get under my skin. They know they were. Mike sent me this message a month ago. He specifically asked me not to engage and to try by hitting the notify button. He told me to 'trust him'. I stopped engaging several of them and only hit notify button and he gave me the ban hammer for notifying. I'm definitely 'surprised in the results'. Right. It's everyone else. You are the victim. Well, good thing you won't be the victim until almost the end of June. You should thank Mike for providing you the means to be protected from everyone else by banning you for six months. Now you are protected from everyone by being here and not there. Consider it Mike doing you a favor. You can twist it any way you want, but I followed Mike's literal instructions and got dinged for it. Math is hard. |
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. You're such a disingenuous liar. You know, and WE ALL KNOW, that when you're dealing with a WELL KNOWN dealer, especially someone YOU said you were friendly with - if you were to buy something that turned out to be color tocuhed or was missing a page - they would take care of you on it. 