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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on Jul 11, 2018 19:00:43 GMT -8
Where's Fingertip Booger-Ball?  I see people playing around with them while driving on the freeway.  |
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Post by Jimmers Nice Guy on Jul 11, 2018 19:09:55 GMT -8
Lawn is a favourite of mine that didn't make it.
People are having a fit over here right now with legalization coming up.Mostly about how to check if people are DUI.It seems we need to hire tonnes of people to do so,and to train them to do so.There goes the weed tax revenue.Special constables my arse.
I don't think all of a sudden loads and loads of more drivers are going to start driving high once it's legal.
I'm really enjoying bugging folks in the newspaper article comments on FB though.I'm a megatroll there.I can't help it.So much ignorance,so many articles wasting space.
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Post by steveinthecity on Jul 11, 2018 22:00:45 GMT -8
I've been keeping an ear out regarding any changes in DUI's, but I get conflicting or possibly biased info. Much of the info I read or that's in yt vids comes from either law enforcement or attorney groups, and they cite increases of as much as 70%, which is an absurd number. There'd be cars run up on curbs everywhere if that were the case, I think. I think determining if one is currently under the influence is tricky, and I'm not sure how blood draws can be an accurate measure as to the current state of inebriation. Similar to the guy killed on the race track by Tony Stewart a few years back, he apparently had a high THC level in his blood so Stewart was absolved of any wrong doing. There are people working on a pot "breathalyzer", so I guess we'll see how that works. How many people are getting into accidents while on legally prescribed opiates? Oh, right. I forgot those don't count.  |
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Jul 12, 2018 11:49:56 GMT -8
Is this what the DEA does? Compiling code words for a plant that would exist and grow whether or not humans ever populated the earth?  Who even uses most of this slang other than the DEA in it's internal memos? Sheesh. Your tax dollars at work with multi-administration BIG GOVERNMENT. Imagine if we had spent the money from The War on Drugs on something else like cancer research, or autonomous vehicles. Just heard a statistic yesterday, China has 250K traffic-related deaths per year. And, of course, we average around 35-40K per year. I need to teach these fucktards how to conduct a Pareto analysis. |
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Jul 12, 2018 11:57:04 GMT -8
I don't think I've heard Acapulco Gold used since the 70s. I never thought that was "code", but a variety. Like I used to hear people mention Thai Stick. Yeah, AG is a variety. Not very good, but it had a yellowish/brown tint. Thai Stick is both a variety and a form. The plant is potent but spindly, so they wrap it around a stick and then use a hemp fiber to wrap it all down tightly. |
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Jul 12, 2018 11:59:43 GMT -8
Lawn is a favourite of mine that didn't make it. People are having a fit over here right now with legalization coming up.Mostly about how to check if people are DUI.It seems we need to hire tonnes of people to do so,and to train them to do so.There goes the weed tax revenue.Special constables my arse. I don't think all of a sudden loads and loads of more drivers are going to start driving high once it's legal.I'm really enjoying bugging folks in the newspaper article comments on FB though.I'm a megatroll there.I can't help it.So much ignorance,so many articles wasting space. We've seen no visible increase here in CA. |
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Post by steveinthecity on Jul 12, 2018 22:53:12 GMT -8
Is this what the DEA does? Compiling code words for a plant that would exist and grow whether or not humans ever populated the earth? Who even uses most of this slang other than the DEA in it's internal memos? Sheesh. Your tax dollars at work with multi-administration BIG GOVERNMENT. Imagine if we had spent the money from The War on Drugs on something else like cancer research, or autonomous vehicles. Just heard a statistic yesterday, China has 250K traffic-related deaths per year. And, of course, we average around 35-40K per year. I need to teach these fucktards how to conduct a Pareto analysis. I try not to think of all the tax dollars wasted or the lives impacted negatively over the years. Similar to autonomous vehicles, I'm still fascinated by the links you put up last year regarding gyroscopic transport. I'd like to see some test spots get funded in my lifetime. I'm too many years removed from my stats class to recall how to apply the Pareto analysis. Looking at those numbers China's higher rate of auto deaths per capita could have to do with driving/licensing laws, safety features on vehicles or roads, etc. Is that what you were getting at with making a comparison? |
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Post by Bats on Jul 13, 2018 0:29:11 GMT -8
...How many people are getting into accidents while on legally prescribed opiates? Oh, right. I forgot those don't count. Would you still be held accountable? |
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Post by steveinthecity on Jul 13, 2018 1:26:14 GMT -8
...How many people are getting into accidents while on legally prescribed opiates? Oh, right. I forgot those don't count. Would you still be held accountable? Well, obviously one would be accountable if they were shown to be at fault, but I don't necessarily think a DUI charge would be attached unless you were exhibiting signs of impairment. Prescription meds aren't going to raise a red flag in a blood draw, if tested for at all. I mostly enjoy rolling my eyes when it comes to the hypocrisy surrounding "drugs" in our culture. |
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Post by Bats on Jul 13, 2018 5:45:50 GMT -8
Would you still be held accountable? Well, obviously one would be accountable if they were shown to be at fault, but I don't necessarily think a DUI charge would be attached unless you were exhibiting signs of impairment. Prescription meds aren't going to raise a red flag in a blood draw, if tested for at all. I mostly enjoy rolling my eyes when it comes to the hypocrisy surrounding "drugs" in our culture. Interesting... I would've thought there'd be a law which prohibits driving on opioids, prescription or not. |
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Jul 13, 2018 5:50:10 GMT -8
Your tax dollars at work with multi-administration BIG GOVERNMENT. Imagine if we had spent the money from The War on Drugs on something else like cancer research, or autonomous vehicles. Just heard a statistic yesterday, China has 250K traffic-related deaths per year. And, of course, we average around 35-40K per year. I need to teach these fucktards how to conduct a Pareto analysis. I try not to think of all the tax dollars wasted or the lives impacted negatively over the years. Similar to autonomous vehicles, I'm still fascinated by the links you put up last year regarding gyroscopic transport. I'd like to see some test spots get funded in my lifetime. I'm too many years removed from my stats class to recall how to apply the Pareto analysis. Looking at those numbers China's higher rate of auto deaths per capita could have to do with driving/licensing laws, safety features on vehicles or roads, etc. Is that what you were getting at with making a comparison? No, I was just making the point that some fears/issues get attention/funding at a rate which is completely disproportionate to their threat. It's tribal myopia at its worst, and in this age of science there's really no excuse for it. |
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Post by steveinthecity on Jul 13, 2018 11:53:12 GMT -8
Well, obviously one would be accountable if they were shown to be at fault, but I don't necessarily think a DUI charge would be attached unless you were exhibiting signs of impairment. Prescription meds aren't going to raise a red flag in a blood draw, if tested for at all. I mostly enjoy rolling my eyes when it comes to the hypocrisy surrounding "drugs" in our culture. Interesting... I would've thought there'd be a law which prohibits driving on opioids, prescription or not. No. There's also no law that prohibits driving after using alcohol. It's the level of impairment that can make the action a criminal offense. For example in my State a blood alcohol level of .08% crosses the line of what's considered DUI or "too much". For prescription meds, it's my understanding that there isn't any one standard for a measurable test that determines impairment. |
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Post by Bats on Jul 13, 2018 12:05:53 GMT -8
Interesting... I would've thought there'd be a law which prohibits driving on opioids, prescription or not. No. There's also no law that prohibits driving after using alcohol. It's the level of impairment that can make the action a criminal offense. For example in my State a blood alcohol level of .08% crosses the line of what's considered DUI or "too much". For prescription meds, it's my understanding that there isn't any one standard for a measurable test that determines impairment. I see. Yes, unlike alcohol, it would be hard to measure. However, the way I look at it is, if the box says don't drive when taking opioids, then probably best not to. |
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Post by Stu on Jul 13, 2018 16:15:30 GMT -8
I think determining if one is currently under the influence is tricky, and I'm not sure how blood draws can be an accurate measure as to the current state of inebriation. Similar to the guy killed on the race track by Tony Stewart a few years back, he apparently had a high THC level in his blood so Stewart was absolved of any wrong doing. There are people working on a pot "breathalyzer", so I guess we'll see how that works. I always thought one reason marijuana wouldn't become legal was because of this, the lack of a pot breathalyzer or a way for cops to know if you smoked five minutes or 5 hours ago. Alcohol is nice and neat, 1 oz per hour, but not pot obviously. But I did read that the blood tests these days are super sensitive and Colorado and Washington set a limit of 5 nanograms of THC per milliliter of blood as a threshold, but I think that's pretty arbitrary. |
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Post by Jimmers Nice Guy on Jul 14, 2018 16:56:53 GMT -8
So...will this be an in for police to obtain blood samples? ie-they can draw someones blood under so called suspicion of driving while high,to 'test' it?Will they then destroy any record,or legally or illegally keep that DNA recorded?I'm concerned this may start taking place in Canada and the USA.Do some places now take blood samples for alcohol? I don't drive,so I really don't have idea about the process.As far as I know,right now in Ontario and Quebec it's just a breathalizer. Oh,and someone gifted me a nice chunk of Lebanese blonde hash today!  |
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