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Post by parker1865 on Jan 18, 2021 8:49:50 GMT -8
The comment about being the “party of law and order” seems silly to me. What would be the default characterization of anyone not affiliated with the Right be then? Maybe someone calls themselves that, but it sounds like sloganeering used to get a cheer while giving a speech. Here’s a stat regarding firearm ownership by party. As for the comment about “breaking laws”, I’d say it’s a safe bet the Right, Left, Center, Up, or Down all adhere and break laws equally. I hear what you’re saying about the protests, but it is a protest, and that’s kind of the sticking point and can’t be compared directly to going to work or even gathering folks for a motorcycle rally. The protests could have possibly been better contained, but you can’t really stop them. I believe some of the behavior of the protestors was foolish(being maskless, vandalizing property, etc.), but barring some immediate danger the protesters might have been in, I don’t think you could stop it without causing a backlash more troublesome than the protests themselves. I think some strong voices behind BLM could have calmed the crowds, but maybe not. I never understood the mindset of looting or breaking windows or any of that. I realize it gets attention and I guess it’s better than stoning people. I think the 'party of law and order' comment came from the riots and protests that were allowed to rage in Democrat regions but not so much in Republican regions.
That was a large part of the socio-political conflict last summer, that some regions did not seem to want to quash the rioting while others did and now those same regions are calling for extreme prosecution of the Capitol riots.
If how the FBI operated the Russian investigation is any indication of whether true justice is the goal I don't have much faith in justice being served in this investigation.
What is happening is that the curtain is being pulled back to uncover the corruption in all areas and the entire world is watching. I said it for a month and will say it again, this does not bode well for people who love and think they live in a true democracy. I don't have the blind faith that many seem to have.
My point about mentioning the protests in regards to Covid is that in the CGC Watercooler there was ABSOLUTELY a free pass given to the protests by certain boardies who are obviously led by their political leanings rather than their logic....which was surreal and hypocritical considering how strongly super spreader events were condemned by the same people, to the point that people's livelihoods needed to be shut down...and yet pretzel logic excuses were made to excuse the BLM protests.
my thoughts:
the over the top reactionary political bs can best be summed up with the fact that the fbi and the pentagon have concluded that 20-25,000 of our own national guard and active duty troops have to be vetted because of the danger of embedded anarchists? wtf? and we don't think there is a serious danger to this federal republic, except from the outgoing potus?? the free world is laughing at us with this latest dumazz blooper.
i am very disappointed that my government does not trust our own military. know who else does that? communist china, the soviet union and the democratic peoples republic of (north)korea.
they are cheering our pentagon and government today. our sons and daughters in the military are being subject to suspicious intent, to cause anarchy to an inauguration where there won't be any public. good lord, i never in my pizzed off moments thought our government could be this insidious and distrusting of us.
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 18, 2021 9:13:18 GMT -8
my thoughts:
the over the top reactionary political bs can best be summed up with the fact that the fbi and the pentagon have concluded that 20-25,000 of our own national guard and active duty troops have to be vetted because of the danger of embedded anarchists? wtf? and we don't think there is a serious danger to this federal republic, except from the outgoing potus?? the free world is laughing at us with this latest dumazz blooper.
i am very disappointed that my government does not trust our own military. know who else does that? communist china, the soviet union and the democratic peoples republic of (north)korea.
they are cheering our pentagon and government today. our sons and daughters in the military are being subject to suspicious intent, to cause anarchy to an inauguration where there won't be any public. good lord, i never in my pizzed off moments thought our government could be this insidious and distrusting of us.
Wow, I had not heard that.
The only comment I'd add to this comes from the commentary on the video that someone posted a while back entitled What A Democratic Socialist Convention Is Like
"They couldn't even achieve utopia in a single room full of like minded people." 
There might be something to Jordan Petersen's observation that the left just continue to splinter their own numbers and they turn against each other.
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 18, 2021 9:15:23 GMT -8
Also, parker, you need to learn to color in the correct lines.  |
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Post by parker1865 on Jan 18, 2021 9:34:37 GMT -8
Also, parker, you need to learn to color in the correct lines.  that is a shot. you are being disingenuous, snarky, belittling, baiting and contentious.  |
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Post by barry on Jan 19, 2021 14:01:39 GMT -8
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Post by Stu on Jan 19, 2021 14:23:45 GMT -8
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Post by parker1865 on Jan 19, 2021 14:32:12 GMT -8
without a doubt, the most maligned potus, and maligned without cause or fact, since even before his election. the uniform, not the man, as a sign of respect was never exercised as an approach for the good of the country. despite this, what the administration accomplished on behalf of all americans is quite commendable, but now, will be forgotten, and the accomplishments will be negated. at least with johnson, there was fact and the constitution was adhered to. |
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Post by Stu on Jan 19, 2021 14:35:15 GMT -8
"...the most maligned potus, and maligned without cause or fact"   |
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 19, 2021 15:50:45 GMT -8
without a doubt, the most maligned potus, and maligned without cause or fact, since even before his election. the uniform, not the man, as a sign of respect was never exercised as an approach for the good of the country. despite this, what the administration accomplished on behalf of all americans is quite commendable, but now, will be forgotten, and the accomplishments will be negated. at least with johnson, there was fact and the constitution was adhered to. I agree.
No world leader is without flaws but the tsunami of attacks he had to put up with were unprecedented (happy to be corrected if I'm wrong - I could be) and I'm sure they affected his productivity.
He was criticized for his response to the pandemic (and I too was guilty of it) but everyone forgets that he was dealing with an impeachment to get him out of office while the pandemic began to set in.
He managed to do some things that NO OTHER president was able to do and those alone are noteworthy including a peace deal in the ME, no new wars and coming up with a Vaccine in record time. Stock market and economic performance as well were unprecedented. Not small things.
I actually feel kinda bad for the guy for some of that...but then I'm always known to root for the underdog so take that as you will.
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Post by Stu on Jan 19, 2021 16:12:17 GMT -8
without a doubt, the most maligned potus, and maligned without cause or fact, since even before his election. the uniform, not the man, as a sign of respect was never exercised as an approach for the good of the country. despite this, what the administration accomplished on behalf of all americans is quite commendable, but now, will be forgotten, and the accomplishments will be negated. at least with johnson, there was fact and the constitution was adhered to. I agree. No world leader is without flaws but the tsunami of attacks he had to put up with were unprecedented (happy to be corrected if I'm wrong - I could be) and I'm sure they affected his productivity. One of the reasons for that is because he was already a Twitter Troll before he ran for office. And that never seems to work out too well for you, does it? It's one of the reasons people think you're a tool 🔧 |
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Post by steveinthecity on Jan 20, 2021 6:15:35 GMT -8
Fox News just reported Pres. Trump did leave a transition/handover letter for Joe Biden. I wonder how they know this already and will we learn the message contents?
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Post by barry on Jan 20, 2021 6:46:10 GMT -8
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Post by barry on Jan 20, 2021 6:49:06 GMT -8
Fox News just reported Pres. Trump did leave a transition/handover letter for Joe Biden. I wonder how they know this already and will we learn the message contents? I heard the report that Obama left one for Trump too so it might be a new tradition. |
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Post by parker1865 on Jan 20, 2021 7:08:08 GMT -8
Fox News just reported Pres. Trump did leave a transition/handover letter for Joe Biden. I wonder how they know this already and will we learn the message contents? I heard the report that Obama left one for Trump too so it might be a new tradition. it goes back to jackson, i believe, and some historians cite adams, and the letter to abigail, and some cite jefferson. |
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Post by steveinthecity on Jan 20, 2021 7:12:15 GMT -8
Fox News just reported Pres. Trump did leave a transition/handover letter for Joe Biden. I wonder how they know this already and will we learn the message contents? I heard the report that Obama left one for Trump too so it might be a new tradition. It’s been happening at least since Ronald Reagan left one for George H.W. B. I always figured the letters were left in some sort of private space that only the incoming President would find and see. If it’s already being reported that implies to me it’s not only known, but has been read by secret service personnel or a random chambermaid. |
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that is a shot. you are being disingenuous, snarky, belittling, baiting and contentious. 
