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Post by vintagecomics on Nov 26, 2023 19:46:10 GMT -8
So, I haven't commented much on this in the last 3 years outside of some peripheral comments, mainly because I didn't know enough about it to comment in any great capacity, but the news coming out now that the ALL THE SECURITY TAPES HAVE BEEN RELEASED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC paint a different story than the media originally painted.
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Post by Cat on Dec 5, 2023 22:51:25 GMT -8
So why did they need to smash down doors and windows, beat the hell out of cops leading them to commit suicide, spread faeces along the walls, and lead to people's death? You think one camera angle covers the whole day's events?
Do better.
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Post by quantumcomics on Dec 6, 2023 6:15:27 GMT -8
So why did they need to smash down doors and windows, beat the hell out of cops leading them to commit suicide, spread faeces along the walls, and lead to people's death? You think one camera angle covers the whole day's events? Do better. As someone who was watching the events live as they transpired I can definitely say that the right is desperate to frame it as nothing violent happened and if it did it was BLM or Antifa that did it. I'm pretty sure the 1200+ people that have been charged did more than just "saunter" around.
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 6, 2023 6:26:31 GMT -8
So why did they need to smash down doors and windows, beat the hell out of cops leading them to commit suicide, spread faeces along the walls, and lead to people's death? You think one camera angle covers the whole day's events? Do better. I'm not saying bad things didn't happen. Bad things always happen when mobs get riled up (just look at how the 4 or 5 of you behave when you all get riled up against me). I'm of the belief that the Democrats are very one sided in their prosecution of this, just as had been proven that they were very one sided about Hunter Biden's laptop, the pandemic communication on social media and the suppression of Biden's affairs in Ukraine, and I believe there's more to the story. The left has almost wholly controlled the media and now that Musk has bought Twitter and exposed that, the tide has started to turn. At this point you can't deny that there was some sort of a conspiracy on those 3 things I just listed. It's quite literally all out in the open. So it stands to reason that there is more to this story as well but you have to be open to that possibility to see it for what it is. If you just lean in one direction you'll never see what's coming from the other side. That's just natural physics and logic. For the record, I never took a side on this issue, but I have been posting about the lies from the Left because I believe at this point those lies are easier to prove than, as you said to me in the General Discussion thread, to prove a negative, or that the Right didn't attempt a coup.
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 6, 2023 6:27:35 GMT -8
So why did they need to smash down doors and windows, beat the hell out of cops leading them to commit suicide, spread faeces along the walls, and lead to people's death? You think one camera angle covers the whole day's events? Do better. As someone who was watching the events live as they transpired I can definitely say that the right is desperate to frame it as nothing violent happened and if it did it was BLM or Antifa that did it. I'm pretty sure the 1200+ people that have been charged did more than just "saunter" around. Yeah, you "watched the events" on media that would only show anything that would incriminate Trump. That's about as reliable as Jeffrey Epstein's suicide watch was at this point.
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Post by quantumcomics on Dec 6, 2023 6:48:20 GMT -8
Right, because every frigging LIVE FEED happening all over the internet isn't good enough evidence of what was happening in real time as it was a grand conspiracy to frame Donald Trump.
How are you able to even leave your home?
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Post by Cat on Dec 6, 2023 7:12:43 GMT -8
This one's an open and shut topic. There's nothing to debate.
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 6, 2023 7:38:18 GMT -8
Right, because every frigging LIVE FEED happening all over the internet isn't good enough evidence of what was happening in real time as it was a grand conspiracy to frame Donald Trump. How are you able to even leave your home? Listen Stu, i's basically proven that the majority of news is favorable to everything the left wants and unfavorable to anything the right wants, so how how can you, an armchair critic judge based on just what the news shows you?
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 6, 2023 7:39:38 GMT -8
This one's an open and shut topic. There's nothing to debate. You've already been shown BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that the left in the US has manipulated the truth through the media. And you still trust the media?
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Post by Cat on Dec 7, 2023 0:03:35 GMT -8
Right, because every frigging LIVE FEED happening all over the internet isn't good enough evidence of what was happening in real time as it was a grand conspiracy to frame Donald Trump. How are you able to even leave your home? Listen Stu, i's basically proven that the majority of news is favorable to everything the left wants and unfavorable to anything the right wants, so how how can you, an armchair critic judge based on just what the news shows you? The news SHOULD NOT be about what a side 'wants', it should be about what happened. Simple as that. That's what you fail to understand. You WANT everything to have a bias.
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Post by steveinthecity on Dec 7, 2023 5:45:00 GMT -8
Listen Stu, i's basically proven that the majority of news is favorable to everything the left wants and unfavorable to anything the right wants, so how how can you, an armchair critic judge based on just what the news shows you? The news SHOULD NOT be about what a side 'wants', it should be about what happened. Simple as that. That's what you fail to understand. You WANT everything to have a bias. Agreed News should be just News. I think bias creeps in in one considers what responses to the any given news is. It should be reportrted flatly, but completely. Omission is can create bias.
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 7, 2023 5:46:48 GMT -8
Listen Stu, i's basically proven that the majority of news is favorable to everything the left wants and unfavorable to anything the right wants, so how how can you, an armchair critic judge based on just what the news shows you? The news SHOULD NOT be about what a side 'wants', it should be about what happened. Simple as that. That's what you fail to understand. You WANT everything to have a bias. I agree, and thank you for validating my point and proving your own bias. I don't have a preferred political side. I have a preferred solution to problems no matter which political side they come from. I've already proven to Zod / Chuck Gower / Prince Namor that throughout the decades I've favored BOTH sides of the political spectrum (for example, I was against both Bush's for their illegal wars) AND I've even at times voiced support for parties that are not one of the big 2. It's a readily established FACT that the largest legacy news corporations ALL lean toward supporting the left and diminishing the right. Instead of being objective and calling out the left for their massive lies, they protect them. They're straight up propaganda tools. And everything you argue about, you spew straight out of the Liberal propaganda book.
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 7, 2023 5:56:36 GMT -8
The news SHOULD NOT be about what a side 'wants', it should be about what happened. Simple as that. That's what you fail to understand. You WANT everything to have a bias. Agreed News should be just News. I think bias creeps in in one considers what responses to the any given news is. It should be reportrted flatly, but completely. Omission is can create bias. The January 6 narrative was brutally biased across most legacy mainstream news. Glen Greenwald, one of the greatest investigative journalists in the world has proven this through several expose articles that showed how the American Legacy mainstream media was working IN CONCERT to establish a fake narrative. People like Cat won't know they're being lied to unless they step out of their cocoon and smell the air that isn't being provided by the Left, but most people refuse to do so for fear of having their minds changed. It's really simple. Cat, have you read this? His investigative journalism exposes collusion between Left wing news agencies to perpetuate outright lies to incite the general public. The False and Exaggerated Claims Still Being Spread About the Capitol Riot
Insisting on factual accuracy does not make one an apologist for the protesters. False reporting is never justified, especially to inflate threat and fear levels.
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Post by Cat on Dec 7, 2023 5:57:23 GMT -8
So common sense is a liberal trait, huh? Good to know, I guess.
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 7, 2023 5:59:39 GMT -8
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