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Post by jcjames on Feb 8, 2023 14:15:21 GMT -8
I suppose penicillin or an AED machine or Bt corn or splitting the atom can be considered hacking the system. nope Well, then I agree because there is no simulation or "system" to be "hacked". There's a world to operate within, and another world beyond the veil outside of the realm of this world that is spiritual/consciousness/eternal. Calling it "simulation" is just jazzy-newspeak to me. The spiritual/consciousness/eternal essence is not one of a "system". |
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Post by kav on Feb 8, 2023 14:17:17 GMT -8
also praying to God is pointless-He already knows what you want-he will either give it to you or not- praying is useless. God is not Santa Claus. Hacking the system you actually get results. Praying is so SO much more than asking Santa-god for goodies. Jesus prayed. Was that pointless of him to do so? Of course not. It focused him on God the Father, for purpose, guidance, power and strength. Prayer orients ourselves to God, focuses us on what HE wants in our lives, and allows us to understand suffering and joy. Does every prayer result in a person "bucking up" and being able to cure the crippled and raise the dead? No, of course not. It was never intended to be, as you say, our wish-list for Santa-god. If praying is useless, then so is living. Living is useless because you die no matter what - and so do your great-great-great-great grandkids if you have any. What's the point then? You refer to "hacking the system". That's just a modern techno-jargon way of expressing what humans have been doing for all of their existence. Learning how the world ("simulation" in the new techno-speak) works and leveraging that knowledge with applications to benefit us. there are 2 kinds of praying-the most common is to ask God for stuff. Pls God let my child be found etc. The other type is just to express gratefulness. Thats a bit better. But remember whatever you pray about-God already knows it so there is no need to pray. Just live life in an exemplary fashion. You have no idea what I mean by hacking the system but it is definitely NOT technological advancements. |
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Post by kav on Feb 8, 2023 14:18:15 GMT -8
Well, then I agree because there is no simulation or "system" to be "hacked". There's a world to operate within, and another world beyond the veil outside of the realm of this world that is spiritual/consciousness/eternal. Calling it "simulation" is just jazzy-newspeak to me. The spiritual/consciousness/eternal essence is not one of a "system". what I am talking about is definitely not newspeak and has been known for tens of thousands of years by the very few. |
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Post by jcjames on Feb 8, 2023 14:29:57 GMT -8
Well, then I agree because there is no simulation or "system" to be "hacked". There's a world to operate within, and another world beyond the veil outside of the realm of this world that is spiritual/consciousness/eternal. Calling it "simulation" is just jazzy-newspeak to me. The spiritual/consciousness/eternal essence is not one of a "system". what I am talking about is definitely not newspeak and has been known for tens of thousands of years by the very few. "simulation" is what I was referring to as "jazzy-newspeak". I get where you're coming from, that consciousness is the apex of existence and the universe. We come from different sides. But the video ends with the old tired trope that "aren't faith and reason incompatible?" and regarding whether we believe in God or a giant simulation-program "what's the difference?" Big difference. Ah well, like I said in my first reply - philosophically interesting. |
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Post by kav on Feb 8, 2023 14:32:28 GMT -8
what I am talking about is definitely not newspeak and has been known for tens of thousands of years by the very few. "simulation" is what I was referring to as "jazzy-newspeak". I get where you're coming from, that consciousness is the apex of existence and the universe. We come from different sides. But the video ends with the old tired trope that "aren't faith and reason incompatible?" and regarding whether we believe in God or a giant simulation-program "what's the difference?" Big difference. Ah well, like I said in my first reply - philosophically interesting. I mean its just a word but for thousands of years sages have spoken about the world being an illusion. If you dont like the word simulation just use illusion. I like simulation better because it presupposes a creator. |
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Post by kav on Feb 8, 2023 15:04:58 GMT -8
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Post by kav on Feb 8, 2023 15:07:05 GMT -8
ok the mandela effect is REAL-I drew pikachu from his image MANY TIMES for my gf's kids and he HAD A BLACK TAIL. 100%  |
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Post by parker1865 on Feb 8, 2023 15:18:40 GMT -8
what I am talking about is definitely not newspeak and has been known for tens of thousands of years by the very few. "simulation" is what I was referring to as "jazzy-newspeak". I get where you're coming from, that consciousness is the apex of existence and the universe. We come from different sides. But the video ends with the old tired trope that "aren't faith and reason incompatible?" and regarding whether we believe in God or a giant simulation-program "what's the difference?" Big difference. Ah well, like I said in my first reply - philosophically interesting. It may help you to know that a virus possibly produced a gene- The Arc gene- which may be the reason for consciousness. No Simulation Construct Matrix stuff. Don't get me started on Giant Virus stuff. I don't want to be the reason for tin foil hat sales exploding. |
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 8, 2023 15:53:45 GMT -8
also praying to God is pointless-He already knows what you want-he will either give it to you or not- praying is useless. God is not Santa Claus. Hacking the system you actually get results. If praying is useless, then so is living. Living is useless because you die no matter what - and so do your great-great-great-great grandkids if you have any. What's the point then? Brilliant. |
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Post by jcjames on Feb 8, 2023 15:59:43 GMT -8
"simulation" is what I was referring to as "jazzy-newspeak". I get where you're coming from, that consciousness is the apex of existence and the universe. We come from different sides. But the video ends with the old tired trope that "aren't faith and reason incompatible?" and regarding whether we believe in God or a giant simulation-program "what's the difference?" Big difference. Ah well, like I said in my first reply - philosophically interesting. I mean its just a word but for thousands of years sages have spoken about the world being an illusion. If you dont like the word simulation just use illusion. I like simulation better because it presupposes a creator. It's all good. |
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 8, 2023 16:00:45 GMT -8
what I am talking about is definitely not newspeak and has been known for tens of thousands of years by the very few. "simulation" is what I was referring to as "jazzy-newspeak". I get where you're coming from, that consciousness is the apex of existence and the universe. We come from different sides. But the video ends with the old tired trope that "aren't faith and reason incompatible?" and regarding whether we believe in God or a giant simulation-program "what's the difference?" Big difference. Ah well, like I said in my first reply - philosophically interesting. I could be wrong but I think Kav is leaning towards a "computer code" simulation while you are of the belief that we are under a "grand illusion" of spiritual design and that we can only see to the edge of that illusion and not past it. Both seem to be similar things but from opposite ends of the spectrum. Almost like two people looking at the same coin from opposite sides. One is arguing they see 'heads' and the other is arguing they see 'tails' and both think they're right. What I found most interesting about that video was the numerology and how nature works through numbers. Numerology is huge in my Christian upbringing and so I find the fact that it exists in nature even more interesting. Also, I genuinely believe that a true, pure faith and logic and reason will never conflict. In fact, I believe that the two will continue to prove the other correct if they are both pursued honestly. |
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Post by jcjames on Feb 8, 2023 16:03:11 GMT -8
"simulation" is what I was referring to as "jazzy-newspeak". I get where you're coming from, that consciousness is the apex of existence and the universe. We come from different sides. But the video ends with the old tired trope that "aren't faith and reason incompatible?" and regarding whether we believe in God or a giant simulation-program "what's the difference?" Big difference. Ah well, like I said in my first reply - philosophically interesting. It may help you to know that a virus possibly produced a gene- The Arc gene- which may be the reason for consciousness. No Simulation Construct Matrix stuff. Don't get me started on Giant Virus stuff. I don't want to be the reason for tin foil hat sales exploding. Don't get YOU started!? Don't get ME started on viruses! They be nasty, evil, alien, life-sucking PIRATES is what they is!  |
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Post by parker1865 on Feb 8, 2023 16:49:45 GMT -8
Concur.
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Post by parker1865 on Feb 8, 2023 16:58:09 GMT -8
But, if not for virus infections, would Humans, or actually any lifeform, excepting virus (and maybe amoeba) exist? I am in the No Line. Possibly sponge, though. Never forget the versatile sponge. And maybe ctenophores-sneaky little suckers.
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Post by kav on Feb 21, 2023 19:23:48 GMT -8
omg wut if the simulation is also a simulation of a simulation-
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