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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 22:58:59 GMT -8
Is #265 the topless She-Hulk issue? That's an absolute treasure! Reed and Johnny return from the Secret Wars trip without Ben. #275 is the topless She-Hulk issue. Zod is SO bad with issue numbers...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 23:00:58 GMT -8
Reed and Johnny return from the Secret Wars trip without Ben. #275 is the topless She-Hulk issue.  Zod LOVES that the sleazy editor resembles a certain Marvel legend...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 23:03:10 GMT -8
She’s sunbathing and some photographers snap her picture. I think she may have been on top of the Baxter building and they flew over. Exactly - total classic from start to finish. Byrne was standing on the shoulders of funny book giants, but what he did with his FF run...!  |
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Post by terrax on Jan 15, 2023 17:40:38 GMT -8
265 is she hulks fist issue
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Post by kav on Jan 15, 2023 18:28:24 GMT -8
why isnt regular hulk called he-hulk?
racist
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Post by kav on Jan 15, 2023 18:28:54 GMT -8
265 is she hulks fist issue I see wut you did there. |
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Post by terrax on Jan 15, 2023 18:38:42 GMT -8
265 is she hulks fist issue I see wut you did there. first ... first |
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Post by kav on Jan 15, 2023 19:04:49 GMT -8
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Post by kav on Jan 15, 2023 19:05:15 GMT -8
it was also a fist issue I think
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 16, 2023 12:38:15 GMT -8
im currently re bagging my collection . i got to the ff a few days ago . #40 on with a big gap between 105 and 163 . re reading all of the john byrne comics . i dont know about any of you but ,i think his run was the best ff ever . maybe some of the best comics ever . I was actually not a big fan of Byrne's art in his second stint on the FF. In his earlier stint on the FF in 1979-80 his art was everything that made him amazing and it mirrored his X-men work. It was larger than life and heroic looking. By the time he finished up the X-men and started writing AND drawing his FF run, his artwork became overly "cartoony" for me. Reed, Sue and Johnny always looked like charactertures...like kids drawn by Neal Adams, with big heads and small bodies. I hated it. And they always had the same expressions. People still considered artist runs as keys back then, before the CGC days that killed that market. I collected the run with excitement because I loved Byrne and I was young but I kind of forced myself to like the art. Visually his run on FF #232 on a big disappointment. Not sure why it changed so much. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 14:32:14 GMT -8
im currently re bagging my collection . i got to the ff a few days ago . #40 on with a big gap between 105 and 163 . re reading all of the john byrne comics . i dont know about any of you but ,i think his run was the best ff ever . maybe some of the best comics ever . I was actually not a big fan of Byrne's art in his second stint on the FF. In his earlier stint on the FF in 1979-80 his art was everything that made him amazing and it mirrored his X-men work. It was larger than life and heroic looking. By the time he finished up the X-men and started writing AND drawing his FF run, his artwork became overly "cartoony" for me. Reed, Sue and Johnny always looked like charactertures...like kids drawn by Neal Adams, with big heads and small bodies. I hated it. And they always had the same expressions. People still considered artist runs as keys back then, before the CGC days that killed that market. I collected the run with excitement because I loved Byrne and I was young but I kind of forced myself to like the art. Visually his run on FF #232 on a big disappointment. Not sure why it changed so much. I loved the art in the second run (along with the writing), but you provide a funny and apt description of it. |
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Post by terrax on Jan 16, 2023 15:21:31 GMT -8
im currently re bagging my collection . i got to the ff a few days ago . #40 on with a big gap between 105 and 163 . re reading all of the john byrne comics . i dont know about any of you but ,i think his run was the best ff ever . maybe some of the best comics ever . I was actually not a big fan of Byrne's art in his second stint on the FF. In his earlier stint on the FF in 1979-80 his art was everything that made him amazing and it mirrored his X-men work. It was larger than life and heroic looking. By the time he finished up the X-men and started writing AND drawing his FF run, his artwork became overly "cartoony" for me. Reed, Sue and Johnny always looked like charactertures...like kids drawn by Neal Adams, with big heads and small bodies. I hated it. And they always had the same expressions. People still considered artist runs as keys back then, before the CGC days that killed that market. I collected the run with excitement because I loved Byrne and I was young but I kind of forced myself to like the art. Visually his run on FF #232 on a big disappointment. Not sure why it changed so much. im just the opposite i didnt like the early stuff as much , maybe because i didnt see it until years later . i think you will find that he didnt ink the early issues . ive seen his work that is unrecognizable with some one else inking it . |
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 16, 2023 16:15:06 GMT -8
Not sure why it changed so much. im just the opposite i didnt like the early stuff as much , maybe because i didnt see it until years later . i think you will find that he didnt ink the early issues . ive seen his work that is unrecognizable with some one else inking it . Right. It was Austin, Sinnott or Rubenstein, or whoever else on the various Byrne art across all the Marvel titles. Was that the main difference? Did he ink his own stuff from FF #232 on? I can't remember right now but I think that was one main difference. Plus the chore of writing as well probably sped up his art creation. |
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Post by terrax on Jan 16, 2023 17:03:57 GMT -8
in my opinion for what its worth , all of his best art was inked by him . his style changed again about 10 yrs later . next men and after .
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 17, 2023 18:50:18 GMT -8
in my opinion for what its worth , all of his best art was inked by him . his style changed again about 10 yrs later . next men and after . Around 1980 on, everyone was evolving their styles. I'm pretty sure it was the "Frank Miller effect" with many popular artists trying to emulate the more stylized, dark, gritty style of Frank Miller who started to dominate new comics. Bill Sienkiewicz's style evolved quite a bit during this time. Byrne's did (although he didn't 'copy' Miller as much there was more exaggerated use of "light / dark" contrast and a definite shift in style) Walt Simonson's did. Many other artists whose memory fails me now began to emulate Miller in some way. There was a definite shift during this period on popular art and I attribute it to Miller changing the landscape. |
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