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Post by theCapraAegagrus on Jan 5, 2023 7:58:10 GMT -8
Careful, now. That's basically all I've been saying for 3 years, and been labeled an "anti-vaxxer", "killer by proxy", etc. God forbid people retain their autonomy.
Careful now, no Data has ever indicated the benefits outweigh the risks for all, and actually in foot notes every Study that produced Data indicate that the risk does outweigh the benefits in certain categories of underlying medical issues and age. That is still the situation worldwide.
You know that we're in agreement, right?
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 5, 2023 10:15:21 GMT -8
To avoid derailing the other thread discussing Damar Hamlin's collapse I'm going to put this info in here. The media outrage at anyone questioning whether the vaccine was involved in Hamlin's collapse is unfounded and politically motivated. A quick look at the statistics show that it is far more likely that a vaccine injury occurred than Commotio Cardio from impact. The incidence of Commotio Cardio in teenagers is 1 / 200,000 and FAR lower in men older than 20, making it a ONE IN A MILLION+ occurrence in grown men. The incidence of Myocarditis in young men can vary but most agree it's about 8 to 30 / 100,000 pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36576362/That means statistically, the likelihood that this was a vaccine injury is FAR higher than the likelihood that it's a CC injury -------------------------- The way Myocarditis creates a cardiac arrest is that it creates localized problems on the heart affecting electrical signals that operate the heart. The heart "flutters". When an electrical signal is "interrupted" from this erratic behavior momentarily, cardiac arrest happens. Meaning the impact from the tackle likely would aggravate conditions already created by jab induced Myocarditis if he had the jab induced condition. It is therefore much more possible it was the vaccine or that the vaccine aggravated the heart causing CC than just CC alone. So the media outrage is misdirected at people who question whether it was the vaccine. The media outrage SHOULD be directed at everyone who have unequivocally stated it's NOT the vaccine with no scientific evidence. Anyone outraged at the mention of a vaccine is not following the science. They're following the politics.
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Post by quantumcomics on Jan 5, 2023 10:51:25 GMT -8
I'm not outraged, I would just like to see some definitive ( key word ) proof of this.
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 5, 2023 10:53:36 GMT -8
I know some people are not going to believe me but I just saw this video AFTER I did my research above. Peter McCullough, one of the world's foremost cardiologists expounds on the injury Damar Hamlin suffers - if anyone knows cardiac arrest, McCullough does. He clearly states that he's not so sure it was Commotio Cardio and why he believes that. It's amazing that the world has become polarized to rule out the most logical and focus on the illogical. Apparently, before the vaccines there introduced there were 29 cardiac arrests in European sports leagues per year. Now there are 1500 in the last year.
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 5, 2023 10:55:34 GMT -8
I'm not outraged, I would just like to see some definitive ( key word ) proof of this. Proof of what again? My post is addressing the mainstream media outrage which is not based on science and statistics. You're not the mainstream media. You should be outraged at the mainstream media for covering up truths that they should be sharing.
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Post by quantumcomics on Jan 5, 2023 11:24:29 GMT -8
I'll be as outraged as I am over Twitter being asked by the Biden campaign to remove the D pics of Hunter illegally posted. FYI, not at all.
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 5, 2023 11:56:20 GMT -8
I'll be as outraged as I am over Twitter being asked by the Biden campaign to remove the D pics of Hunter illegally posted. FYI, not at all. That's fair game, but are you outraged that Twitter removed ALL NEWS of the Hunter Biden Laptop scandal right before the election directly influencing an election?
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Post by quantumcomics on Jan 5, 2023 12:07:12 GMT -8
No, I am not because Hunter is not in public office and wasn't running for public office. If they find he actually did something illegal, throw the book at him. If they find some connection to Joe Biden doing something illegal in regards to his son, impeach him.
So far we have no proof of either.
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 5, 2023 12:15:40 GMT -8
No, I am not because Hunter is not in public office and wasn't running for public office. If they find he actually did something illegal, throw the book at him. If they find some connection to Joe Biden doing something illegal in regards to his son, impeach him. So far we have no proof of either. So you're OK with the government censorship of a story that was legitimate and may have affected the outcome of the election?
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Post by quantumcomics on Jan 5, 2023 12:21:49 GMT -8
It wasn't "government censorship" as Trump was the government at the time and they ( Trump's government ) did not ask to remove the story. Biden's campaign requested that sensitive pictures ( illegal ones at that ) be removed.
These were requests not orders.
As I said, if actual proof of any wrongdoing is discovered, prosecute to the fullest extent.
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 5, 2023 12:47:18 GMT -8
It wasn't "government censorship" as Trump was the government at the time and they ( Trump's government ) did not ask to remove the story. Biden's campaign requested that sensitive pictures ( illegal ones at that ) be removed. These were requests not orders. As I said, if actual proof of any wrongdoing is discovered, prosecute to the fullest extent. The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is the domestic intelligence and security service of the United States and its principal federal law enforcement agency.Operating under the jurisdiction of the United States Department of Justice (from Wiki) It is literally the 'police force' of the US government. You need to read up on your Twitter info to see that these "requests" were pushed very hard. If they were orders they may have been construed as censorship right away. So, 2 questions: 1) If the FBI, censoring a legitimate story from public view is not "government censorship" then what would be considered "government censorship" in your mind? 2) Why would Trump censor a story that would have helped him win the election if allowed to be made public?
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Post by quantumcomics on Jan 5, 2023 13:24:28 GMT -8
YOU said it was government censorship and I honestly don't think you understand what that actually means. If it comes out that the FBI, CIA, NSA, or the YMCA forced ( not asked ) Twitter to quell the story I will agree it's censorship. Otherwise it's a request that was or wasn't followed.
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 5, 2023 13:54:45 GMT -8
YOU said it was government censorship and I honestly don't think you understand what that actually means. If it comes out that the FBI, CIA, NSA, or the YMCA forced ( not asked ) Twitter to quell the story I will agree it's censorship. Otherwise it's a request that was or wasn't followed. Have you read the respective Twitter files on the topic?
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Post by quantumcomics on Jan 5, 2023 14:24:53 GMT -8
YOU said it was government censorship and I honestly don't think you understand what that actually means. If it comes out that the FBI, CIA, NSA, or the YMCA forced ( not asked ) Twitter to quell the story I will agree it's censorship. Otherwise it's a request that was or wasn't followed. Have you read the respective Twitter files on the topic? Yes I have and I do not see the smoking gun that you apparently do.
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Post by vintagecomics on Jan 5, 2023 15:45:49 GMT -8
Have you read the respective Twitter files on the topic? Yes I have and I do not see the smoking gun that you apparently do. The FBI pressured Twitter and the rest of social media to remove a story from public view.
The story WAS TRUE and they said it was false.
That story would likely have affected the outcome of the 2020 election.
It's hard to see a smoking gun when your eyes are closed. But the good news is that even if you can't see it, everyone can smell it.
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