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Post by kav on Sept 14, 2022 13:44:35 GMT -8
I said attack the message not the messenger.
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Post by kav on Sept 14, 2022 13:46:23 GMT -8
Then he went of on one of his irrelevant rants.
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Post by vintagecomics on Sept 14, 2022 14:26:27 GMT -8
What was the reply? Should we get a scientist to double check his reply? His track record has been a little spotty as of late. Also, grab a screen shot before the edit because his answers are subject to change without notice. Oh he linked the wiki page of that scientist as if thats some kind of black mark-wiki's opinion of him. Wait. So The Great Oz himself used Wiki to try to discredit a messenger? Wow. Talk about playing checkers during a chess match. You should show him this (and read it if you already haven't) This is an uncovering of an actual conspiracy with incontrovertible truths SHOWING HOW WIKI is manipulated by a small group of people with an agenda. This is a 1st hand account of how Wiki tried to delegitimize a credible scientist. How Wikipedia defames and delegitimizes anybody raising concerns against the WHO narrative on CovidI said attack the message not the messenger. Maybe he's just jealous because he doesn't have a Wiki page about himself? I wonder how University of Pennsylvania compares to the London School of Economics and Queen Mary University of London? Attacking the messenger is always a white flag because they have nothing left in the chamber.
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Post by barry on Sept 14, 2022 14:34:20 GMT -8
Willie Wei-Hock Soon (born September 30, 1965)[1] is a Malaysian astrophysicist[2] and aerospace engineer[3] employed as a part-time externally funded researcher at the Solar and Stellar Physics (SSP) Division of the Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian.[4][5] - From Wiki As astrophysicist and geoscientist Willie Soon has pointed out repeatedly, climate hysterics are “true believers,” impervious to experiential refutation. On August 19, 2022, in a speech delivered to the Doctors for Disaster Preparedness at their annual convention, Dr. Soon showed extensive evidence that the United Nations’ predictions of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming have been wrong for the past 50 years.
U.N. predictions that catastrophic anthropogenic global warming will cause sea levels to rise, wiping nations off the face of the earth, are nothing but fearmongering. But, as Dr. Soon documented, when U.N. predictions fail to materialize, the U.N. merely extends the inevitable happening of the future climate change catastrophe to an anticipated date in the future.Video rumble.com/embed/v1dwxwf/?pub=4
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Post by kav on Sept 14, 2022 14:43:45 GMT -8
Forbush is really not good at debating-probably why he blows his top so often. i see him tossing the chessboard off the table when he's losing-
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Post by kav on Sept 14, 2022 14:48:30 GMT -8
When he gets really frustrated and has no reply all he can do is post haha reactions to posts.
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Post by vintagecomics on Sept 14, 2022 15:18:53 GMT -8
When he gets really frustrated and has no reply all he can do is post haha reactions to posts. I would bet a zillion dollars that namisgr has some sort of background dialogue with moderators behind the scenes.
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Post by kav on Sept 14, 2022 15:24:21 GMT -8
When he gets really frustrated and has no reply all he can do is post haha reactions to posts. I would bet a zillion dollars that namisgr has some sort of background dialogue with moderators behind the scenes. hard to say. Mike does things his way and is very stubborn about not being influenced, which is a good trait in some ways. If complains to mike about someone mike already doesnt care for though it probably goes well for him.
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Post by kav on Sept 14, 2022 15:59:49 GMT -8
Ok jaybuck attacked Willie Wei-Hock Soon based on who funds him-koch and whatnot. I said you think george soros would fund someone stating those truths? And he said....get this.... Sure why wouldnt he? there's being in denial and then there's statements like that-
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Post by kav on Sept 14, 2022 16:04:24 GMT -8
I rebutted with He's a scientist and a damn good one-he's not gonna just say what it takes to get funding from the usual suspects-he has to take what funding he gets stating the truth he states.
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Post by vintagecomics on Sept 14, 2022 17:17:07 GMT -8
Ok jaybuck attacked Willie Wei-Hock Soon based on who funds him-koch and whatnot. I said you think george soros would fund someone stating those truths? And he said....get this.... Sure why wouldnt he? there's being in denial and then there's statements like that- First, whenever anyone says the funding determines the science both of those guys have argued that the science determines the science and not the funding. But now they're arguing that the funding is questionable? Hypocrisy much? And Jaybuck obviously has NO idea what he's talking about. I've counted him to be wrong, dead wrong, in 6 interactions with me and he's never admitted it even though I proved him dead wrong. The best time was the first time, when he asked me why I was using such a word in my statement (can't remember the word) and that I was incorrect. So I pulled up a document from some prestigious publication (can't remember if it was The Lancet or Science) and the word I was using was in the title of the article, stating exactly what I'd said. Caught him square between the eyes with no way out. He just went quiet and scurried away for a while. No apology. No "Oh man, you're right." Nothing. That's when I realized I was dealing with a shyster and wasn't having an honorable discussion. That was 2 years ago. It actually makes me sad because I love discussing things but those guys took the fun out of it.
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Post by vintagecomics on Sept 14, 2022 17:19:21 GMT -8
Ok jaybuck attacked Willie Wei-Hock Soon based on who funds him-koch and whatnot. I said you think george soros would fund someone stating those truths? And he said....get this.... Sure why wouldnt he? there's being in denial and then there's statements like that- He only said “I” six times in his initial post to you. Did G.G. Paul the 4th, or whatever his name is, call him out for being an attention whore?
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Post by kav on Sept 14, 2022 17:31:58 GMT -8
Ok jaybuck attacked Willie Wei-Hock Soon based on who funds him-koch and whatnot. I said you think george soros would fund someone stating those truths? And he said....get this.... Sure why wouldnt he? there's being in denial and then there's statements like that- First, whenever anyone says the funding determines the science both of those guys have argued that the science determines the science and not the funding. But now they're arguing that the funding is questionable? Hypocrisy much? And Jaybuck obviously has NO idea what he's talking about. I've counted him to be wrong, dead wrong, in 6 interactions with me and he's never admitted it even though I proved him dead wrong. The best time was the first time, when he asked me why I was using such a word in my statement (can't remember the word) and that I was incorrect. So I pulled up a document from some prestigious publication (can't remember if it was The Lancet or Science) and the word I was using was in the title of the article, stating exactly what I'd said. Caught him square between the eyes with no way out. He just went quiet and scurried away for a while. No apology. No "Oh man, you're right." Nothing. That's when I realized I was dealing with a shyster and wasn't having an honorable discussion. That was 2 years ago. It actually makes me sad because I love discussing things but those guys took the fun out of it. He's smart in his field-law. In science and medicine he is way out of his depth.
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Post by kav on Sept 14, 2022 17:53:04 GMT -8
No matter how much evidence you post that global warming is fiction Namor continues to say "I never see any evidence just opinions I'd sure like to see evidence-" There's sticking one's head in the sand and then there's.....NAMOR.
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Post by vintagecomics on Sept 14, 2022 18:33:47 GMT -8
First, whenever anyone says the funding determines the science both of those guys have argued that the science determines the science and not the funding. But now they're arguing that the funding is questionable? Hypocrisy much? And Jaybuck obviously has NO idea what he's talking about. I've counted him to be wrong, dead wrong, in 6 interactions with me and he's never admitted it even though I proved him dead wrong. The best time was the first time, when he asked me why I was using such a word in my statement (can't remember the word) and that I was incorrect. So I pulled up a document from some prestigious publication (can't remember if it was The Lancet or Science) and the word I was using was in the title of the article, stating exactly what I'd said. Caught him square between the eyes with no way out. He just went quiet and scurried away for a while. No apology. No "Oh man, you're right." Nothing. That's when I realized I was dealing with a shyster and wasn't having an honorable discussion. That was 2 years ago. It actually makes me sad because I love discussing things but those guys took the fun out of it. He's smart in his field-law. In science and medicine he is way out of his depth. If you're saying he's a good lawyer, you're probably right. But In most instances I've interacted with him, he's been a disingenuous debater. The two are unrelated.
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