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Post by vintagecomics on Oct 23, 2022 8:40:57 GMT -8
That is: everything wrong with an approach that consists of throwing money at green business interests in defiance of any practical consideration. That is the Liberal playbook for EVERYTHING in a nutshell. Pandemic? Destroy a million lives to save a few thousand, and they didn't save the lives they were trying to anyway. Climate change? Rinse repeat. Bull dozing over people's lives for some theoretical solution and people are suffering in the mean time. Sexual identity? Rinse repeat. Mutilating and destroy children's lives and bodies to save a small number of children who may or may not regret those decisions down the road. In every single instance, the solution destroys just as many, if not more lives than it saves because they don't factor into practical, human considerations. This is what Marxism is. You are a number. You are a statistic, and they just juggle statistics as though they carry no will of their own, no life of their own and simply try to ram through rules and constructs to try to build this Utopian society as though there are no consequences, while crushing lives along the way. History has already taught us that Marxist ideology kills millions of people. 100 Million people have died under that attempted ideology already. That's what the Great Reset is now. Another attempt at Marxist ideology. And in every case the consequences are far worse than before they started. The pandemic is recent proof of that. They had all these great ideas that didn't save the elderly they were trying to save and in fact have killed more young people than the pandemic would have. The literally did the opposite of what they were attempting. Does anyone care enough to say or do something about it?
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Post by barry on Oct 24, 2022 3:22:14 GMT -8
That is: everything wrong with an approach that consists of throwing money at green business interests in defiance of any practical consideration. That is the Liberal playbook for EVERYTHING in a nutshell. Pandemic? Destroy a million lives to save a few thousand, and they didn't save the lives they were trying to anyway. Climate change? Rinse repeat. Bull dozing over people's lives for some theoretical solution and people are suffering in the mean time. Sexual identity? Rinse repeat. Mutilating and destroy children's lives and bodies to save a small number of children who may or may not regret those decisions down the road. In every single instance, the solution destroys just as many, if not more lives than it saves because they don't factor into practical, human considerations. This is what Marxism is. You are a number. You are a statistic, and they just juggle statistics as though they carry no will of their own, no life of their own and simply try to ram through rules and constructs to try to build this Utopian society as though there are no consequences, while crushing lives along the way. History has already taught us that Marxist ideology kills millions of people. 100 Million people have died under that attempted ideology already. That's what the Great Reset is now. Another attempt at Marxist ideology. And in every case the consequences are far worse than before they started. The pandemic is recent proof of that. They had all these great ideas that didn't save the elderly they were trying to save and in fact have killed more young people than the pandemic would have. The literally did the opposite of what they were attempting. Does anyone care enough to say or do something about it? Everything the Left does seems illogical and expensive. Take student debt relief as an example, it makes no sense. It's unfair, illegal and the timing couldn't be worse to inject money into an inflated economy. Why waste time with this? We need to fix the economy. The Left seems like a bunch of out of control children, crying, demanding, believing in fairy tales, and making a mess that the adults have to constantly clean up.
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Post by vintagecomics on Oct 24, 2022 7:08:06 GMT -8
That is the Liberal playbook for EVERYTHING in a nutshell. <snip> The literally did the opposite of what they were attempting. Does anyone care enough to say or do something about it? Everything the Left does seems illogical and expensive. Take student debt relief as an example, it makes no sense. It's unfair, illegal and the timing couldn't be worse to inject money into an inflated economy. Why waste time with this? We need to fix the economy. The Left seems like a bunch of out of control children, crying, demanding, believing in fairy tales, and making a mess that the adults have to constantly clean up. They're either ignorant and unaware of the consequences of their decisions or they are fully aware and trying to hasten the downfall of the economy to force things like The Great Reset, which they have been working towards for years. I'm leaning towards the latter, since I find it hard to believe that anybody could be that dumb.
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Post by parker1865 on Oct 24, 2022 7:53:26 GMT -8
I don't mind, and never have minded climate change. of course there is climate change.
What I do mind....with extreme prejudice....is the entities/governments/political affiliations that want ME to pay for it.
No. Just no. Nada. Upso. NYET!!!!
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Post by vintagecomics on Oct 24, 2022 10:13:36 GMT -8
I don't mind, and never have minded climate change. of course there is climate change. What I do mind....with extreme prejudice....is the entities/governments/political affiliations that want ME to pay for it. No. Just no. Nada. Upso. NYET!!!! In Canada... New “clean fuel” regulations will cost Canadian workers more than $1,200 a year on average
Article in spoiler.
{Spoiler} New “clean fuel” regulations will cost Canadian workers more than $1,200 a year on average, says research commissioned by the advocacy group Canadians for Affordable Energy. The Clean Fuel Standard mandates greater use of ethanol.
“The direct and indirect economic costs to households add up to $1,277 annually per employed person,” said the research paper Economic Analysis Of The 2022 Clean Fuel Standard. “This takes into account increased energy costs, lower wages, lower capital earnings and increased indirect costs throughout the rest of the economy.”
“The Clean Fuel Standard as announced by the federal government will have long lasting negative economic consequences,” said the report by LFX Associates of Toronto. Researchers said regulations will reduce greenhouse gas emissions and “in reality will reduce incomes” at the same time.
Dan McTeague, former Liberal MP (Pickering-Scarborough East, Ont.) and current president of Canadians for Affordable Energy, called the Fuel Standard a second carbon tax that will raise the cost of gasoline. “That is exactly what it is,” McTeague said in a statement. “It is simply another tax grab that will only make life more unaffordable for Canadians.”
The ethanol regulations take effect July 1, 2023. The Department of Environment in a June 29 Regulatory Impact Analysis Statement acknowledged costs will run to billions.
“Modeling conducted for this analysis estimates the regulations could result in societal costs that range from $22.6 billion to $46 billion with a central estimate of $30.7 billion,” wrote staff. “Therefore the greenhouse gas emission reductions would be achieved at an estimated societal cost per tonne between $111 and $186 with a central estimate of $151,” the equivalent of 36¢ more per litre of gasoline.
Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault in the Commons Friday did not dispute the Canadians for Affordable Energy figures but said the expense was justifiable. “Climate change is costing Canadians billions,” said Guilbeault.
Independent MP Kevin Vuong (Spadina-Fort York, Ont.) challenged the Minister. “This is an extra tax of $1,277 annually,” said Vuong. “With food inflation at 11.4 percent and families to struggling to afford basic necessities the government is gong to make things worse.”
Minister Guilbeault in a January 12 interview with the environmental advocacy website The Narwhal said the regulations were part of a campaign of “phasing out fossil fuels” after 2024. “My timeline is two years,” said Guilbeault.
“So in the next two years, more stringent methane regulations, zero emission vehicle standards, net zero grid by 2035, cap on oil and gas and obviously phasing out fossil fuels – all of these things must be in place in the coming eighteen months,” said Guilbeault.
“I mean, maybe 2024, but that’s the type of time frame we have to work with and it’s going to be tough because on the one hand some people are going to criticize us for not giving them enough time to be consulted, but the state of climate change is such that we need to learn to do things faster and that’s certainly true of us as a government,” said Guilbeault.
“Take Clean Fuel Standards for example,” said Guilbeault. “We’ve been having public consultations on this for five years.” The Minister added: “We don’t have that luxury anymore. We don’t have five years to consult every time we want to introduce a new measure.”
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Post by barry on Oct 24, 2022 13:23:37 GMT -8
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Post by kav on Oct 25, 2022 10:52:14 GMT -8
maybe ppl think climate is changing because they remember their childhood like this
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Post by kav on Oct 25, 2022 17:21:17 GMT -8
Wish I could post in CGC forum but thats a strike
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Post by parker1865 on Oct 26, 2022 4:49:37 GMT -8
maybe ppl think climate is changing because they remember their childhood like this A small correction. That was not my parents. That was me. Catholic schools back then did not have public funded buses.
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Post by parker1865 on Oct 26, 2022 4:53:22 GMT -8
Wish I could post in CGC forum but thats a strike Simple solution: Ask Stu if he would do you a favor, AND ALSO REQUEST THAT IT BE POSTED AS A RESPONSE DIRECTLY AFTER ANY POST BY SHELDON. That'll do it....
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Post by barry on Oct 28, 2022 3:19:45 GMT -8
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Post by vintagecomics on Nov 9, 2022 17:28:03 GMT -8
The big problem with the Climate Change article is the cherry picking of data AND cherry picking of media coverage. This 15 minute Joe Rogan clip with Bjørn Lomborg does a deep dive into the FACTS of how Climate Change data is being manipulated. The opening line to the video is amazing. "The real challenge here is, how do we find a way, that means the vast amount...so the 6.5 Billion people who are NOT rich can actually get a great living by the end of the century AND we can also fix climate change and that's only going to happen if we find the technological breakthroughs and that's NOT going to happen with 'I'm sorry but can you do with less.'
Not only is that NOT going to win any elections in the long run but it's just NOT going to be possible to convince China, India and Africa to do that."----------------------------------------------------------- Who is Bjørn Lomborg, you may ask? Well, he's a MOTHERTRUCKING SCIENTIST. Now, he may not have graduated from University of Pennsylvania (poor guy) but he is a DAMN FINE scientist. But don't take my word for it: From Wiki: Bjørn Lomborg is a Danish author, statistician and president of the think tank Copenhagen Consensus Center. He is former director of the Danish government's Environmental Assessment Institute in Copenhagen. He became internationally known for his best-selling and controversial book The Skeptical Environmentalist.
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Post by kav on Nov 9, 2022 18:57:09 GMT -8
warmies also cherry pick who is or isnt a 'legitimate' scientist.
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Post by vintagecomics on Nov 10, 2022 16:50:43 GMT -8
Dutch farmers are protesting their land and livelihood being seized by government in the name of Climate Change.
The Dutch government is now calling protesting farmers, who are protesting for their livelihoods 'etremeists'
Sounds like The American Way.
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Post by kav on Nov 10, 2022 19:32:44 GMT -8
Dutch farmers are protesting their land and livelihood being seized by government in the name of Climate Change. The Dutch government is now calling protesting farmers, who are protesting for their livelihoods 'etremeists' Sounds like The American Way. cracks me up when warmies say what motive could people have for fabricating global warming or what could be the downside even if they are wrong-
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