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Post by barry on Nov 13, 2023 9:56:43 GMT -8
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Post by vintagecomics on Nov 13, 2023 21:08:17 GMT -8
What is happening in the world is a true revolution of Biblical proportions. There is a tide moving across every democratic country to overturn the damage the Liberals have done and it is involving everyone in concert, from Trump, Musk, Hollywood, The White House, Rogan, Epstein, Peterson, Shapiro, several US universities and think tanks WITH the support of the common people, en masse. It's happening in real time as you see Liberal politicians fall from power, one by one and Conservative leaders (former centrists but now called conservatives because the Left is so far Left) rising into power in every seat. New Zealand, Australia, Italy, Hungary, Turkey, even in Canada and the US. Nobody can beat Trump because the common people support him and see through the media machine BS. Someone is going to try to kill him. It's the only way to stop him and after all the weird deaths surrounding Hilary and Obama, it only makes it sound more likely. The guy quite literally has captured everyone's attention and nobody buys the smears of the media. I know I posted this speech in another thread, but listen to this speech again. I've never heard an anti terror speech from a US president like this. Even at the height of 9/11 or after, whether it was Obama or Bush, NOBODY spoke like this. Their speeches sounded contrived and empty. This speech has a spirit in it that is heartfelt, genuine and real. And BIDEN HAS NEVER HAD A SPEECH LIKE THIS. Enter Gavin Newsome, the devil in a suit. |
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Post by quantumcomics on Nov 14, 2023 8:07:59 GMT -8
How do you explain the Democrats overperforming in the recent special elections then? How do you wrap your brain around very red states voting in favor of abortion when citizens are given the opportunity to vote for it?
Your unhinged rant seems to go against reality, shocking.
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Post by vintagecomics on Dec 5, 2023 8:06:38 GMT -8
How do you explain the Democrats overperforming in the recent special elections then? How do you wrap your brain around very red states voting in favor of abortion when citizens are given the opportunity to vote for it? Your unhinged rant seems to go against reality, shocking. Math is hard. |
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Post by Prince Namor on Dec 7, 2023 14:43:25 GMT -8
How do you explain the Democrats overperforming in the recent special elections then? How do you wrap your brain around very red states voting in favor of abortion when citizens are given the opportunity to vote for it? Your unhinged rant seems to go against reality, shocking. Math is hard. Republicans got their asses handed to them in the mid-terms. How do you explain that, slugger? And Trump's never won the popular vote. In fact, Republicans haven't won the popular vote since Bush in 2004! The REAL topics, go completely against what the MAJORITY of American's WANT: Sensible gun laws? Republicans AGAINST it, the Majority of Americans FOR it. A woman's RIGHT to choose? Republicans AGAINST it, the Majority of Americans FOR it. Healthcare for Everyone? Republicans AGAINST it, the Majority of Americans FOR it. Climate Change? Republicans AGAINST it, the Majority of Americans FOR it. The #1 concern for Americans by far? Prices/Inflation. And we all know trickle down economics doesn't work. |
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Post by jsilverjanet on Dec 8, 2023 8:53:59 GMT -8
What is happening in the world is a true revolution of Biblical proportions. There is a tide moving across every democratic country to overturn the damage the Liberals have done and it is involving everyone in concert, from Trump, Musk, Hollywood, The White House, Rogan, Epstein, Peterson, Shapiro, several US universities and think tanks WITH the support of the common people, en masse. It's happening in real time as you see Liberal politicians fall from power, one by one and Conservative leaders (former centrists but now called conservatives because the Left is so far Left) rising into power in every seat. New Zealand, Australia, Italy, Hungary, Turkey, even in Canada and the US. Nobody can beat Trump because the common people support him and see through the media machine BS. Someone is going to try to kill him. It's the only way to stop him and after all the weird deaths surrounding Hilary and Obama, it only makes it sound more likely. The guy quite literally has captured everyone's attention and nobody buys the smears of the media. I know I posted this speech in another thread, but listen to this speech again. I've never heard an anti terror speech from a US president like this. Even at the height of 9/11 or after, whether it was Obama or Bush, NOBODY spoke like this. Their speeches sounded contrived and empty. This speech has a spirit in it that is heartfelt, genuine and real. And BIDEN HAS NEVER HAD A SPEECH LIKE THIS. Enter Gavin Newsome, the devil in a suit. "I don't push conspiracy theories"
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Post by quantumcomics on Dec 8, 2023 10:16:04 GMT -8
Ask him how he feels about Time naming Taylor Swift their person of the year. According to sources he's probably familiar with, it's a Deep State psyop.  |
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Post by Prince Namor on Dec 8, 2023 19:53:23 GMT -8
What is happening in the world is a true revolution of Biblical proportions. Would you like another piece of fruitcake?
There is a tide moving across every democratic country to overturn the damage the Liberals have done and it is involving everyone in concert, from Trump, Musk, Hollywood, The White House, Rogan, Epstein, Peterson, Shapiro, several US universities and think tanks WITH the support of the common people, en masse. Or the whole cake?
It's happening in real time as you see Liberal politicians fall from power, one by one and Conservative leaders (former centrists but now called conservatives because the Left is so far Left) rising into power in every seat. New Zealand, Australia, Italy, Hungary, Turkey, even in Canada and the US. Christopher Luxon is a Conservative? Let's see, he believes in "help the nation’s “squeezed middle” with tax cuts"...  , that's not an AMERICAN conservative!
What else:"He has committed to maintaining legal abortion and supported same-sex marriage." , that's not an AMERICAN conservative!
He also said: “Faith is deeply personal, but I am not there to act in the interests of one faith, one group, one person or one belief system. I’m there to represent all New Zealanders" ... Holy freakin' cannoli, that's DEFINITELY not an AMERICAN conservative!
This guy sounds like a religious Bernie Sanders.
I guess you just read words on a page Roy and fit them into your narrative.
Who else you got, Zippy?
Australia??? Anthony Albanese??? , this is easy: He BELIEVES in Climate Change, he's tried to bridge the relationship with Australia's Indigenous people, he wants to increase the minimum wage... you think he's a Conservative???
Viktor Orbán has been in power in Hungary for... 13 years? 27 out of the last 30 years? What do you think changed there? Do you just read what Ethan van Sciver writes and agree with it or do you actually do research?
Of course you don't. You're a BOT.
Orban may be anti-immigrant and against “LGBT ideology”, but his country is SOCIALIST (they call it a unitary, parliamentary republic) : 100% free healthcare paid for by taxes and: "Hungary has a more than 80% privately owned economy with 39.1% overall taxation, which provides the basis for the country's WELFARE ECONOMY."
Whoa! That doesn't sound like an AMERICAN conservative to me!
Tayyip Erdogan in Turkiye (no longer: Turkey!) has been in office since 2014, so there's no CHANGE there. I guess they've begun to accept a guy who has basically made himself a DICTATOR. But you LIKE that idea, don't you?
They're still suffering from Inflation as high as 85% and Food Price increases as high as 54%.... Do you even KNOW what it is you're comparing things to?
Do you actually read and understand any of this stuff? Or do you just read Tucker Carlson's Google response and say, "Oh yes, that's what I believe!"
And the U.S.? Did you miss the mid-term elections last year?"I don't push conspiracy theories"
All he DOES is push conspiracy theories. Geez, what a maroon. He's not even smart enough to understand the BS he posts. |
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Post by kav on Dec 8, 2023 19:57:52 GMT -8
"I don't push conspiracy theories"
All he DOES is push conspiracy theories. Geez, what a maroon. He's not even smart enough to understand the BS he posts. remember-conspiracy nuts dont think its a conspiracy theory. They think its true. "We didnt go to the moon"-all of 'em. |
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Post by Prince Namor on Dec 8, 2023 19:58:32 GMT -8
Nobody can beat Trump because the common people support him and see through the media machine BS. Someone is going to try to kill him. It's the only way to stop him and after all the weird deaths surrounding Hilary and Obama, it only makes it sound more likely. You mean the guy who has never won the popular vote?
The guy quite literally has captured everyone's attention and nobody buys the smears of the media. I know I posted this speech in another thread, but listen to this speech again. I've never heard an anti terror speech from a US president like this. Even at the height of 9/11 or after, whether it was Obama or Bush, NOBODY spoke like this. Their speeches sounded contrived and empty. This speech has a spirit in it that is heartfelt, genuine and real. And BIDEN HAS NEVER HAD A SPEECH LIKE THIS. Enter Gavin Newsome, the devil in a suit.  |
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Post by Prince Namor on Dec 8, 2023 20:13:09 GMT -8
All you have to do is look at the reaction of the middle eastern leaders to see how they viewed this silly Pollyanna viewed DRAB speech. You can't see it, but there was ZERO Palestinian representation there. Afterwards, you had Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, Oman, Qatar, and Morocco who supported it (mainly countries we do Oil business with, DUH), though they ALL voiced certain reservations naturally... you don't actually HEAR any of the plan there, I guess because it's so dumb, that whoever made that video didn't include it. The Jordan, Palestine, Iraq, Tunisia, and Algeria all said NO... which sort of defeats it immediately. Libya and Sudan? ... crickets. Complete silence. Here's how quickly the plan was dismissed by the Palestinians (from the BBC): Palestinians have dismissed US President Donald Trump's new Middle East peace plan as a "conspiracy". It envisages a Palestinian state and recognition of Israeli sovereignty over settlements in the occupied West Bank. Mr Trump said Jerusalem would remain Israel's "undivided" capital, but the Palestinian capital would "include areas of East Jerusalem". Reacting to Tuesday's announcement, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said Jerusalem was "not for sale". "All our rights are not for sale and are not for bargain," he added. Palestinians took to the streets on Wednesday as part of a "day of rage" called by political factions. The Palestinian health ministry said three people were injured by live fire in clashes between protesters and Israeli security forces near Ramallah in the northern West Bank. They are in a stable condition. Several people were also injured by rubber-coated bullets during a protest in the village of Abu Dis, in the eastern suburbs of Jerusalem, and one person was hit by a rubber bullet near Arroub camp in the southern West Bank, according to the Palestinian Wafa news agency. |
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Post by Prince Namor on Dec 8, 2023 20:15:20 GMT -8
What's really funny about that speech is that it is 100% Trump being POLITICALLY CORRECT, something the Right generally despises.
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Post by Prince Namor on Dec 8, 2023 20:18:13 GMT -8
humanrightsfirst.org/library/three-fallacies-in-trumps-riyadh-speech/THREE FALLACIES IN TRUMP’S RIYADH SPEECH"President Trump’s illusory world—new approaches that are, in fact, hackneyed retreads of failed policies, alleged common values belied by his host’s conduct and statements, and a one-eyed view of Iran that will only strengthen drivers of extremism there, fueling conflict throughout the region—presents many dangers to U.S. interests and to global efforts to counter terrorism."President Trump’s speech at the Arab Islamic American Summit in Riyadh on May 21 was rich in generalities and open to broad interpretation. For example, the president promised to advance “security through stability,” which is a bit like advancing happiness through joy or wealth through prosperity. He spoke of “Principled Realism” as the basis of U.S strategy, which is just as meaningless as Hillary Clinton’s pledge to pursue “principled pragmatism.” Whereas President Obama spoke of seeking relations with the Muslim world based on “mutual interest and mutual respect,” Trump spoke of “common values and shared interests.”
Cutting through the empty rhetoric, Trump framed his remarks around several faulty assumptions. If these fallacies wind up serving as the basis for future policy, they will erode support for human rights and ultimately harm U.S. interests.
First, Trump spoke of “a new chapter” and of “new approaches,” but there is nothing new about a U.S. approach to the Middle East rooted in alliances with authoritarian governments. U.S. Middle East policy has largely been based on this model for the last seventy years, with a few short intermissions. Such an approach may have, debatably, made sense during the Cold War, when Arab allies like Saudi Arabia were reliably anti-Communist and a bulwark against Soviet expansionism, but the monarchies and authoritarian regimes of the Arab region began to look anachronistic as more representative, democratic government spread throughout the world in the 1970s and 1980s. Consistent with this global trend, people in the Arab region began to demand better governance and rulers that respected their rights and dignity.
Since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989, the refusal of authoritarian Arab states to respond to the aspirations of their growing populations has presented a constant challenge to the United States. Successive administrations have struggled with crises, from Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait in 1991 to the 9/11 attacks ten years later to the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq that followed. The Arab Spring uprisings of 2011 showed again the instability created by unreconstructed authoritarian rule in the region.
Alarmed by the tide of change sweeping away entrenched authoritarian rulers, Saudi Arabia and other GCC states have spent the last five years trying to shore up the rickety authoritarian state order, with distinctly mixed results. A Saudi-led military intervention in Bahrain has succeeded in pushing back popular demands for more representative government on the island, and the Saudis, together with other GCC states, have been the major backers of President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi’s restoration of military-backed authoritarian rule in Egypt, but these countries remain deeply divided. A major Saudi military intervention in Yemen has embroiled the country in a prolonged war with substantial material and reputational costs. Meanwhile, the devastating war in Syria continues, spreading instability throughout the region and beyond, and conflicts also continue in Iraq and Libya.
By aligning the United States uncritically with a Saudi-led authoritarian regional order, Trump may hope that he is turning the clock back to a more stable time. But the protracted collapse of the Arab authoritarian order has been one of the root causes of both the spread of terrorism over the last twenty years and the region’s many unresolved conflicts.
Second, Trump referred several times to the “shared values” of the United States and his hosts. Yet Trump himself tweeted in June 2016 that the Saudis “want women as slaves and to kill gays.” Leaders of GCC states proudly assert that they “do not share our values,” so it is hard to understand why Trump should insist on pretending that they do. Despite Saudi claims of moderation and co-existence, they jail non-violent critics, deny women basic rights, forbid religious freedom and propagate a harsh, sectarian interpretation of Islam around the world that has inspired the ideology of terrorist groups like ISIS and al-Qa’eda. Just a few weeks before Trump’s visit to Saudi Arabia, the Kingdom used its influence to persuade its allies on the UN Security Council, Egypt and Senegal, to block a move to add the Saudi ISIS affiliate to the UN’s list of terrorist groups. Simply put, the values that the Saudi government stands for and propagates are very much part of the problem, not the solution. By pretending otherwise, Trump is willfully turning his back on reality.
Third, one of the few specific policy proposals in the speech was a call on “all nations of conscience to isolate Iran.” Trump is right to point to the destabilizing activities of the regime in Tehran, but many of those activities are viewed in Iran as a defensive response to threatening rhetoric such as that used by Trump during his trip, and to the increasing U.S. military presence in Qatar, Bahrain, Iraq , Afghanistan, and Syria. Such a one-sided position in the regional conflict between Saudi Arabia and Iran, which has taken on an increasingly inflammatory sectarian tone in recent years thanks to the policies of both sides, will only escalate violence and instability.
It was more than ironic that Trump spoke about the “suffering” of the Iranian people on a day when 57% of Iran’s voters had used the narrow opportunity of a controlled election to signal strong support for political reform and greater personal freedom. In Iran’s major cities, people celebrated taking part in something that has never happened in Saudi Arabia, a competitive election. A majority of Iran’s citizens signaled that they hope for a brighter future based on moderation and coexistence, but Trump’s willful disregard of their reality will empower Iranian hardliners who use hostility towards Iran as a pretext to perpetuate authoritarian rule.
President Trump’s illusory world—new approaches that are, in fact, hackneyed retreads of failed policies, alleged common values belied by his host’s conduct and statements, and a one-eyed view of Iran that will only strengthen drivers of extremism there, fueling conflict throughout the region—presents many dangers to U.S. interests and to global efforts to counter terrorism.
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Post by kav on Dec 8, 2023 20:31:07 GMT -8
humanrightsfirst.org/library/three-fallacies-in-trumps-riyadh-speech/THREE FALLACIES IN TRUMP’S RIYADH SPEECH"President Trump’s illusory world—new approaches that are, in fact, hackneyed retreads of failed policies, alleged common values belied by his host’s conduct and statements, and a one-eyed view of Iran that will only strengthen drivers of extremism there, fueling conflict throughout the region—presents many dangers to U.S. interests and to global efforts to counter terrorism."President Trump’s speech at the Arab Islamic American Summit in Riyadh on May 21 was rich in generalities and open to broad interpretation. For example, the president promised to advance “security through stability,” which is a bit like advancing happiness through joy or wealth through prosperity. He spoke of “Principled Realism” as the basis of U.S strategy, which is just as meaningless as Hillary Clinton’s pledge to pursue “principled pragmatism.” Whereas President Obama spoke of seeking relations with the Muslim world based on “mutual interest and mutual respect,” Trump spoke of “common values and shared interests.”
Cutting through the empty rhetoric, Trump framed his remarks around several faulty assumptions. If these fallacies wind up serving as the basis for future policy, they will erode support for human rights and ultimately harm U.S. interests.
First, Trump spoke of “a new chapter” and of “new approaches,” but there is nothing new about a U.S. approach to the Middle East rooted in alliances with authoritarian governments. U.S. Middle East policy has largely been based on this model for the last seventy years, with a few short intermissions. Such an approach may have, debatably, made sense during the Cold War, when Arab allies like Saudi Arabia were reliably anti-Communist and a bulwark against Soviet expansionism, but the monarchies and authoritarian regimes of the Arab region began to look anachronistic as more representative, democratic government spread throughout the world in the 1970s and 1980s. Consistent with this global trend, people in the Arab region began to demand better governance and rulers that respected their rights and dignity.
Since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989, the refusal of authoritarian Arab states to respond to the aspirations of their growing populations has presented a constant challenge to the United States. Successive administrations have struggled with crises, from Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait in 1991 to the 9/11 attacks ten years later to the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq that followed. The Arab Spring uprisings of 2011 showed again the instability created by unreconstructed authoritarian rule in the region.
Alarmed by the tide of change sweeping away entrenched authoritarian rulers, Saudi Arabia and other GCC states have spent the last five years trying to shore up the rickety authoritarian state order, with distinctly mixed results. A Saudi-led military intervention in Bahrain has succeeded in pushing back popular demands for more representative government on the island, and the Saudis, together with other GCC states, have been the major backers of President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi’s restoration of military-backed authoritarian rule in Egypt, but these countries remain deeply divided. A major Saudi military intervention in Yemen has embroiled the country in a prolonged war with substantial material and reputational costs. Meanwhile, the devastating war in Syria continues, spreading instability throughout the region and beyond, and conflicts also continue in Iraq and Libya.
By aligning the United States uncritically with a Saudi-led authoritarian regional order, Trump may hope that he is turning the clock back to a more stable time. But the protracted collapse of the Arab authoritarian order has been one of the root causes of both the spread of terrorism over the last twenty years and the region’s many unresolved conflicts.
Second, Trump referred several times to the “shared values” of the United States and his hosts. Yet Trump himself tweeted in June 2016 that the Saudis “want women as slaves and to kill gays.” Leaders of GCC states proudly assert that they “do not share our values,” so it is hard to understand why Trump should insist on pretending that they do. Despite Saudi claims of moderation and co-existence, they jail non-violent critics, deny women basic rights, forbid religious freedom and propagate a harsh, sectarian interpretation of Islam around the world that has inspired the ideology of terrorist groups like ISIS and al-Qa’eda. Just a few weeks before Trump’s visit to Saudi Arabia, the Kingdom used its influence to persuade its allies on the UN Security Council, Egypt and Senegal, to block a move to add the Saudi ISIS affiliate to the UN’s list of terrorist groups. Simply put, the values that the Saudi government stands for and propagates are very much part of the problem, not the solution. By pretending otherwise, Trump is willfully turning his back on reality.
Third, one of the few specific policy proposals in the speech was a call on “all nations of conscience to isolate Iran.” Trump is right to point to the destabilizing activities of the regime in Tehran, but many of those activities are viewed in Iran as a defensive response to threatening rhetoric such as that used by Trump during his trip, and to the increasing U.S. military presence in Qatar, Bahrain, Iraq , Afghanistan, and Syria. Such a one-sided position in the regional conflict between Saudi Arabia and Iran, which has taken on an increasingly inflammatory sectarian tone in recent years thanks to the policies of both sides, will only escalate violence and instability.
It was more than ironic that Trump spoke about the “suffering” of the Iranian people on a day when 57% of Iran’s voters had used the narrow opportunity of a controlled election to signal strong support for political reform and greater personal freedom. In Iran’s major cities, people celebrated taking part in something that has never happened in Saudi Arabia, a competitive election. A majority of Iran’s citizens signaled that they hope for a brighter future based on moderation and coexistence, but Trump’s willful disregard of their reality will empower Iranian hardliners who use hostility towards Iran as a pretext to perpetuate authoritarian rule.
President Trump’s illusory world—new approaches that are, in fact, hackneyed retreads of failed policies, alleged common values belied by his host’s conduct and statements, and a one-eyed view of Iran that will only strengthen drivers of extremism there, fueling conflict throughout the region—presents many dangers to U.S. interests and to global efforts to counter terrorism.
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Post by Cat on Dec 8, 2023 21:41:05 GMT -8
Hahaha. I know EXACTLY why Australia ended up on that list. Roy saw that Australia kicked its Liberals out of power at its most recent election. However, had he done the slightest bit of research he'd have learnt that they're our CONSERVATIVES. Now our true liberals, the Labour party, are in charge.
That's so funny.
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