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Post by Stu on Feb 13, 2021 14:16:34 GMT -8
And as expected acquitted. Were his words dangerous ? Yes Were his words misleading if not lies? Yes Were his words directly responsible for causing the riot? 57 - 43 felt they were but not enough to convict. However, the one thing that troubles me in the idea that some were trying to claim that the impeachment charge in of itself was unconstitutional. If that had become a precedent then that could cause serious ripples down the line. It COULD have meant that a departing president bares no responsibility from 1st Wednesday of November until January 20th at 12:01 PM. It COULD have meant that questions would arise of the Presidency in general as far as the lawfulness of policy created by that President from the 1st Wednesday of November until January 20th at 12:01 PM. I do see this as doing longterm harm to the Republican Party as it fractures over the cult of Trump which is a shame. I can at least say I saw the writing on the wall in early 2017 as to what a show this would be for four years and quickly registered as an Independent. In the meantime I hope he eats as many heart attack inducing hamburgers as he wants, hoping he strokes out and ends up in a human shell of a wheelchair bound prison. And before people say that liberals are violent, sorry there kiddies. I am a Brooklyn born Italian American. I wish people death on Christmas for cutting us off in traffic. BTW: Hopes, and dreams are covered by 1st Amendment protection as they are figurative wishes and not overt directives or persuasive gestures for others to come to arms against a target. You introduced me to "death on Christmas"
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Post by Shadow Moon on Feb 13, 2021 14:24:26 GMT -8
And as expected acquitted. Were his words dangerous ? Yes Were his words misleading if not lies? Yes Were his words directly responsible for causing the riot? 57 - 43 felt they were but not enough to convict. However, the one thing that troubles me in the idea that some were trying to claim that the impeachment charge in of itself was unconstitutional. If that had become a precedent then that could cause serious ripples down the line. It COULD have meant that a departing president bares no responsibility from 1st Wednesday of November until January 20th at 12:01 PM. It COULD have meant that questions would arise of the Presidency in general as far as the lawfulness of policy created by that President from the 1st Wednesday of November until January 20th at 12:01 PM. I do see this as doing longterm harm to the Republican Party as it fractures over the cult of Trump which is a shame. I can at least say I saw the writing on the wall in early 2017 as to what a show this would be for four years and quickly registered as an Independent. In the meantime I hope he eats as many heart attack inducing hamburgers as he wants, hoping he strokes out and ends up in a human shell of a wheelchair bound prison.
And before people say that liberals are violent, sorry there kiddies. I am a Brooklyn born Italian American. I wish people death on Christmas for cutting us off in traffic. BTW: Hopes, and dreams are covered by 1st Amendment protection as they are figurative wishes and not overt directives or persuasive gestures for others to come to arms against a target. Dude that's messed up.
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Post by Buzzetta on Feb 13, 2021 14:40:02 GMT -8
And as expected acquitted. Were his words dangerous ? Yes Were his words misleading if not lies? Yes Were his words directly responsible for causing the riot? 57 - 43 felt they were but not enough to convict. However, the one thing that troubles me in the idea that some were trying to claim that the impeachment charge in of itself was unconstitutional. If that had become a precedent then that could cause serious ripples down the line. It COULD have meant that a departing president bares no responsibility from 1st Wednesday of November until January 20th at 12:01 PM. It COULD have meant that questions would arise of the Presidency in general as far as the lawfulness of policy created by that President from the 1st Wednesday of November until January 20th at 12:01 PM. I do see this as doing longterm harm to the Republican Party as it fractures over the cult of Trump which is a shame. I can at least say I saw the writing on the wall in early 2017 as to what a show this would be for four years and quickly registered as an Independent. In the meantime I hope he eats as many heart attack inducing hamburgers as he wants, hoping he strokes out and ends up in a human shell of a wheelchair bound prison.
And before people say that liberals are violent, sorry there kiddies. I am a Brooklyn born Italian American. I wish people death on Christmas for cutting us off in traffic. BTW: Hopes, and dreams are covered by 1st Amendment protection as they are figurative wishes and not overt directives or persuasive gestures for others to come to arms against a target. Dude that's messed up.
But wishing the people that cut me off in traffic death on Christmas was okay?
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Post by Stu on Feb 13, 2021 14:42:17 GMT -8
And as expected acquitted. Were his words dangerous ? Yes Were his words misleading if not lies? Yes Were his words directly responsible for causing the riot? 57 - 43 felt they were but not enough to convict. However, the one thing that troubles me in the idea that some were trying to claim that the impeachment charge in of itself was unconstitutional. If that had become a precedent then that could cause serious ripples down the line. It COULD have meant that a departing president bares no responsibility from 1st Wednesday of November until January 20th at 12:01 PM. It COULD have meant that questions would arise of the Presidency in general as far as the lawfulness of policy created by that President from the 1st Wednesday of November until January 20th at 12:01 PM. I do see this as doing longterm harm to the Republican Party as it fractures over the cult of Trump which is a shame. I can at least say I saw the writing on the wall in early 2017 as to what a show this would be for four years and quickly registered as an Independent. In the meantime I hope he eats as many heart attack inducing hamburgers as he wants, hoping he strokes out and ends up in a human shell of a wheelchair bound prison.
And before people say that liberals are violent, sorry there kiddies. I am a Brooklyn born Italian American. I wish people death on Christmas for cutting us off in traffic. BTW: Hopes, and dreams are covered by 1st Amendment protection as they are figurative wishes and not overt directives or persuasive gestures for others to come to arms against a target. Dude that's messed up.
Dude that's awesome. I was hoping that would happen to him way before he ever became president.
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 14, 2021 23:22:57 GMT -8
An interesting discussion. Again then you are not understanding or refuse to understand the situation. Her contract was not renewed not because of this incident but a culmination of incidents with the apex being that of making fun of and taunting transgender individuals. It was not her 'politics'. I think what she was actually let go over and what she wants to make it out to be are two different things. BTW... I realized something... did you get yourself suspended again? Because you responded here and not there... Actually, her 'taunting transgender individuals' (as I understand it) came after followers were bothering / taunting / goading / asking her why she had not listed her own preferred pronouns.
Gina posted this:
"I don’t think trans people would like all of you trying to force a woman to put something in her bio through harassment & name calling EVERYDAY for MONTHS. Such as ‘Racist Transphobe’ ‘Bi**h’ ‘Weirdo’ ‘I hope you die’ ‘I hope you lose your career’ ‘your fat, you’re ugly'"
Is that right or did it happen some other way?
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 14, 2021 23:27:38 GMT -8
In the meantime I hope he eats as many heart attack inducing hamburgers as he wants, hoping he strokes out and ends up in a human shell of a wheelchair bound prison. Dude that's messed up.
Yeah, I don't get this either. I'd never wish that on someone.
You have Stu wishing the former POTUS an early demise, Buzz wishing...well, wishing the above....but Gina Carano gets fried and executed in the court of public opinion for typing 'beep, boop, bop' and accurately conveying what happened in Nazi Germany and how it can happen to us.
I think this is exactly the sort of equity (or lack thereof) that parker1865 was talking about.
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Post by parker1865 on Feb 15, 2021 4:51:53 GMT -8
Yeah, I don't get this either. I'd never wish that on someone.
You have Stu wishing the former POTUS an early demise, Buzz wishing...well, wishing the above....but Gina Carano gets fried and executed in the court of public opinion for typing 'beep, boop, bop' and accurately conveying what happened in Nazi Germany and how it can happen to us.
I think this is exactly the sort of equity (or lack thereof) that parker1865 was talking about. Yes, it is the sort.
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Post by Buzzetta on Feb 15, 2021 5:56:27 GMT -8
Yeah, I don't get this either. I'd never wish that on someone.
You have Stu wishing the former POTUS an early demise, Buzz wishing...well, wishing the above....but Gina Carano gets fried and executed in the court of public opinion for typing 'beep, boop, bop' and accurately conveying what happened in Nazi Germany and how it can happen to us.
I think this is exactly the sort of equity (or lack thereof) that parker1865 was talking about. Nope, because I don't work for Disney anymore. If I did, I would be in trouble with them for tweeting that. I just texted a friend of mine about wishing harm on others, who happens to be a staunch conservative, (IE: Trump can do no wrong because he has that 'R' after his name). His response was basically that he does it all the time. Someone cuts him off in traffic, he hopes that the next sudden veering that they make is into a pole and that they aren't wearing a seatbelt. Then he hoped I fell down the stairs for waking him up at 9am in the morning with that question. There seem to be two extremes on this. One side is that you cannot even say the word, 'cancer' out loud or someone you know will get it. On the other hand wishing violence or disease or ill fate on someone that is despised is as natural as unwrapping the foil to hershey's Kiss before downing that little bite sized piece of chocolate.
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Post by Stu on Feb 15, 2021 7:47:45 GMT -8
Yeah, I don't get this either. I'd never wish that on someone.
You have Stu wishing the former POTUS an early demise, Buzz wishing...well, wishing the above....but Gina Carano gets fried and executed in the court of public opinion for typing 'beep, boop, bop' and accurately conveying what happened in Nazi Germany and how it can happen to us.
I think this is exactly the sort of equity (or lack thereof) that parker1865 was talking about. Nope, because I don't work for Disney anymore. If I did, I would be in trouble with them for tweeting that. I just texted a friend of mine about wishing harm on others, who happens to be a staunch conservative, (IE: Trump can do no wrong because he has that 'R' after his name). His response was basically that he does it all the time. Someone cuts him off in traffic, he hopes that the next sudden veering that they make is into a pole and that they aren't wearing a seatbelt. Then he hoped I fell down the stairs for waking him up at 9am in the morning with that question. There seem to be two extremes on this. One side is that you cannot even say the word, 'cancer' out loud or someone you know will get it. On the other hand wishing violence or disease or ill fate on someone that is despised is as natural as unwrapping the foil to hershey's Kiss before downing that little bite sized piece of chocolate. Sounds like we're talking aboot New York vs. Canada. Would it be a surprise to hear that my parents are from New York?
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 15, 2021 7:50:09 GMT -8
Yeah, I don't get this either. I'd never wish that on someone.
You have Stu wishing the former POTUS an early demise, Buzz wishing...well, wishing the above....but Gina Carano gets fried and executed in the court of public opinion for typing 'beep, boop, bop' and accurately conveying what happened in Nazi Germany and how it can happen to us.
I think this is exactly the sort of equity (or lack thereof) that parker1865 was talking about. Nope, because I don't work for Disney anymore. If I did, I would be in trouble with them for tweeting that. I just texted a friend of mine about wishing harm on others, who happens to be a staunch conservative, (IE: Trump can do no wrong because he has that 'R' after his name). His response was basically that he does it all the time. Someone cuts him off in traffic, he hopes that the next sudden veering that they make is into a pole and that they aren't wearing a seatbelt. Then he hoped I fell down the stairs for waking him up at 9am in the morning with that question. There seem to be two extremes on this. One side is that you cannot even say the word, 'cancer' out loud or someone you know will get it. On the other hand wishing violence or disease or ill fate on someone that is despised is as natural as unwrapping the foil to hershey's Kiss before downing that little bite sized piece of chocolate. One problem in society for sure (and it's something I've been adamant about for a long time) is that talk is cheap and too many people use words that they don't mean.
One example is when people incessantly ask "How are you?", like when a bank teller or a restaurant server asks me when they really don't care. My belief is that it causes an erosion of integrity in society. That's why I refuse to use the phrase "how are you" when I don't mean it.
Maybe humor is different in NYC but I personally don't joke around like that (and it's not that I don't have a sense of humor - my closest friends all think I'm funny and fun to be around).
But more to the point, I understand that you don't work for Disney and their rules don't apply to you anymore but there is nonetheless an inequitable tidal wave of contempt that is growing across society and in it's swell is millions of people who can flood you with a deluge of derogatory comments and you can't do boo.
And they take anything you may say and turn it against you and turn it inside out a 1000 different ways until you die bleeding from a 10,000 cuts from a bunch of nobodies who without the mob would be insignificant and non-existent.
It's the modern day equivalent of being called a rapist when you've done nothing of the sort. But once those words come out from someone's mouth in a public setting anyone that hears it will never see you the same way again.
We're in a real life dystopian story here where the outcome looks bleak and all I can keep saying is that this doesn't seem to have any sort of a happy ending in the direction we're heading in right now.
Nobody wins on this road IMO.
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Post by barry on Feb 17, 2021 7:25:00 GMT -8
Trump unloads on McConnell, promises MAGA primary challengers
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Post by barry on Feb 17, 2021 8:26:15 GMT -8
NYC public school asks parents to 'reflect' on their 'whiteness' Passed out a ranking list titled, "The 8 White Identities"
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 17, 2021 8:38:34 GMT -8
Trump unloads on McConnell, promises MAGA primary challengers
People are only talking along party lines (not surprisingly) and are dead set locked into blaming 'the other party' for not doing the right thing no matter what.
Apparently Democratic prosecutors doctored evidence in their attempt to impeach Trump. Isn't that a serious thing?
Nobody is really talking about that.
Nobody is talking about how quickly the trial ended after the prosecutors wanted to call witnesses. Why did it end so abruptly? Does Nancy Pelosi have previous knowledge that she didn't want to testify about?
How about those planted pipe bombs they found before the rally that show that the protestors were not just riled up by the speech on Jan 6th but that there was a pre planned movement that had nothing to do with the speech?
I'm also interested to hear more about what Trump was doing that day. People are saying he was listening in on chat rooms and online discussions planning the protest violence and he used that to his advantage. Is there any evidence of that?
It would be interesting to know more details from all sides.
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Post by vintagecomics on Feb 17, 2021 8:40:15 GMT -8
NYC public school asks parents to 'reflect' on their 'whiteness' Passed out a ranking list titled, "The 8 White Identities"
Oh, this is NOT a good thing IMO and it doesn't end well.
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Post by parker1865 on Feb 17, 2021 9:06:30 GMT -8
NYC public school asks parents to 'reflect' on their 'whiteness' Passed out a ranking list titled, "The 8 White Identities"
Oh, this is NOT a good thing IMO and it doesn't end well.
Then you will enjoy a major U.S. healthcare insurance provider notifying PCPs that it would be beneficial to consider the race of a patient, and suggesting the PCP share via a PCP profile their own race, since many patients have (according to research conducted by the healthcare insurance provider) indicated a concern that a PCP that does not understand the social nuances of the patient may not be as helpful to the patient seeking healthcare, and that there is evidence that patients of a particular race and social condition are less likely to receive equal treatment when the PCP is not of the same race and social understanding.
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