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Post by Bats on Nov 23, 2016 13:26:52 GMT -8
Take this one for instance. Can't I just say that Silvesteri drew that issue, he also drew an X-Men comic (say, #220), and Stan wrote the X-Men?
EDIT: Although... did he draw an X-Men comic that Stan also contributed to?
Stan stopped writing Uncanny X-Men at #72. Silvesteri started drawing on #218. That wouldn't work.
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Post by Stu on Nov 23, 2016 13:53:28 GMT -8
Take this one for instance. Can't I just say that Silvesteri drew that issue, he also drew an X-Men comic (say, #220), and Stan wrote the X-Men?
EDIT: Although... did he draw an X-Men comic that Stan also contributed to?
Hey, that's what I'm trying to figure out, I want to make sure I'm not making the game harder than it is. So the title of the book can't connect the two? That'd be too easy I guess. And no, I don't think there's a book they both worked on. So this will always lead back to (mostly) Silver Age then? Golden age comics are so terrible that I wouldn't even consider them.
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Post by Bats on Nov 23, 2016 13:58:10 GMT -8
EDIT: Although... did he draw an X-Men comic that Stan also contributed to?
Hey, that's what I'm trying to figure out, I want to make sure I'm not making the game harder than it is. So the title of the book can't connect the two? That'd be too easy I guess. And no, I don't think there's a book they both worked on. So this will always lead back to (mostly) Silver Age then? Golden age comics are so terrible that I wouldn't even consider them. It has to be the particular issue that links. Either contributor (but not editor) or character. The character link can get you out of most tight fixes, however it does tend to add up the steps and you can easily find yourself going over the 6.
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Post by Stu on Nov 23, 2016 14:33:37 GMT -8
EDIT: Although... did he draw an X-Men comic that Stan also contributed to?
Stan stopped writing Uncanny X-Men at #72. Silvesteri started drawing on #218. That wouldn't work. Ah, good question: do reprints count? (Say like Classic X-Men reprints Silver X-Men stories but has new art by John Bolton)
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Post by Stu on Nov 23, 2016 14:35:41 GMT -8
Hey, that's what I'm trying to figure out, I want to make sure I'm not making the game harder than it is. So the title of the book can't connect the two? That'd be too easy I guess. And no, I don't think there's a book they both worked on. So this will always lead back to (mostly) Silver Age then? Golden age comics are so terrible that I wouldn't even consider them. It has to be the particular issue that links. Either contributor (but not editor) or character. The character link can get you out of most tight fixes, however it does tend to add up the steps and you can easily find yourself going over the 6. How does the character link work? I don't suppose you can say Cyclops was in an issue Silvesteri drew and Stan obviously wrote the character of Cyclops?
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Post by Bats on Nov 23, 2016 14:59:36 GMT -8
It has to be the particular issue that links. Either contributor (but not editor) or character. The character link can get you out of most tight fixes, however it does tend to add up the steps and you can easily find yourself going over the 6. How does the character link work? I don't suppose you can say Cyclops was in an issue Silvesteri drew and Stan obviously wrote the character of Cyclops? A very basic example would be...
Spider-Man was a character in The Amazing Spider-Man #583 Spider-Man was a character in The Amazing Spider-Man #1 Stan Lee was a writer in The Amazing Spider-Man #1
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Post by Stu on Nov 23, 2016 15:06:17 GMT -8
How does the character link work? I don't suppose you can say Cyclops was in an issue Silvesteri drew and Stan obviously wrote the character of Cyclops? A very basic example would be...
Spider-Man was a character in The Amazing Spider-Man #583 Spider-Man was a character in The Amazing Spider-Man #1 Stan Lee was a writer in The Amazing Spider-Man #1
Ok, that seems a little better. Would this be acceptable? Silvesteri drew Cyberforce # Silvesteri drew Cyclops in X-Men # Cyclops was in X-Men #1 Stan Lee wrote X-Men #1
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Post by Bats on Nov 23, 2016 15:10:14 GMT -8
A very basic example would be...
Spider-Man was a character in The Amazing Spider-Man #583 Spider-Man was a character in The Amazing Spider-Man #1 Stan Lee was a writer in The Amazing Spider-Man #1
Ok, that seems a little better. Would this be acceptable? Silvesteri drew Cyberforce # Silvesteri drew Cyclops in X-Men # Cyclops was in X-Men #1 Stan Lee wrote X-Men #1 Yes.
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Post by Stu on Nov 23, 2016 15:28:48 GMT -8
Ok, that seems a little better. Would this be acceptable? Silvesteri drew Cyberforce # Silvesteri drew Cyclops in X-Men # Cyclops was in X-Men #1 Stan Lee wrote X-Men #1 Yes. So when you say "character" is it that broad, or does it have to be the specific alter ego of that character? Say someone said "Green Lantern #165". Could I just say: Green Lantern was in GL 165 Stan Lee wrote Just Imagine Stan Lee creating Green Lantern. So if it has to be a specific alter ego like Hal, Guy, John etc, would it count that Stan wrote about Hal in that DC book, but it's not the in-continuity Hal? How do Elsewords count?
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Nov 23, 2016 15:55:53 GMT -8
So when you say "character" is it that broad, or does it have to be the specific alter ego of that character? Say someone said "Green Lantern #165". Could I just say: Green Lantern was in GL 165 Stan Lee wrote Just Imagine Stan Lee creating Green Lantern. So if it has to be a specific alter ego like Hal, Guy, John etc, would it count that Stan wrote about Hal in that DC book, but it's not the in-continuity Hal? How do Elsewords count? You have to have a connection like this... Green Lantern 165 Green Lantern is a character in GL165 Green Lantern is a character in Comic Book XYZ Stan Lee was a writer on Comic Book XYZ Notice the pattern: Sentence 1&2, the subjects are connected; sentence 2&3, the objects are connected. You'll see this pattern over and over with the longer solutions. If you have a character with different human variations and you connect the human variation rather than the character it has to stay consistent. Character to Character, or Human to human. The character route is probably easiest and most versatile.
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Post by Stu on Nov 23, 2016 16:30:22 GMT -8
So when you say "character" is it that broad, or does it have to be the specific alter ego of that character? Say someone said "Green Lantern #165". Could I just say: Green Lantern was in GL 165 Stan Lee wrote Just Imagine Stan Lee creating Green Lantern. So if it has to be a specific alter ego like Hal, Guy, John etc, would it count that Stan wrote about Hal in that DC book, but it's not the in-continuity Hal? How do Elsewords count? You have to have a connection like this... Green Lantern 165 Green Lantern is a character in GL165 Green Lantern is a character in Comic Book XYZ Stan Lee was a writer on Comic Book XYZ Ok, that's basically what I wrote above: GL is a character in GL 165 GL is a character in Imagine Stan Lee creating GL Stan Lee wrote that issue. Ok, so I can use GL as a character and it doesn't matter what the alter ego of that GL is, only that he is a GL?
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Post by Stu on Nov 23, 2016 16:34:16 GMT -8
How about comics where Stan Lee appears in the comic? Does the Funky Flashman count as Stan appearing in a comic?
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Nov 23, 2016 19:00:38 GMT -8
Basically, just consider exact character connections.
Funky Flashman is a character. And since he's not actually Stan Lee and only a caricature of him, you could not connect him to Stan unless Stan drew him.
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Post by Stu on Nov 24, 2016 9:25:17 GMT -8
Alright, sorry about he detour, I won't be asking anymore. Where were we? What's the current book?
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Nov 24, 2016 9:50:25 GMT -8
Alright, sorry about he detour, I won't be asking anymore. Where were we? What's the current book? 22
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