New Case Discussion Thread (Sequential Examples)

I decided to not submit this book to CBCS at Awesome Con. CBCS actually talked me out of it. After I said that this was my favorite comic, they said and I quote "If this is your favorite comic then I wouldn't do this, especially because it's a CGC 9.8". I said "really? why? I thought it would get damaged over time" He then said "Well did you read the thread in the forum?" I said yes but I might have missed something. "Well, on every occasion, when we pull a book out of the CGC case ink ends up pulling off the cover".

At that point I was really turned away but I still asked "How much would it drop the grade? Are we talking just a little spot or something?" He then basically implied that grades have been taking big dives when the re-slab. He said he's not a grader so he wouldn't be able to tell me. I asked not for the grade of my book but in his experience what has he been noticing from books they are pulling out... "Have you see books pulled out? How far are grades falling?"

He didn't have an answer... he didn't even know what an area code was. I'm not giving names out or anything because I'd never want to do that but I was really shocked at this guys lack of knowledge, lack of customer service skills and he even huffed when he had to get out a calculator to give me an estimate.

The other two guys at the booth were awesome and I can't remember his name but I ended up speaking about Outcast for a few minutes.

I did not send this book off with CBCS however I did send off two other books that were raw, excited about getting those back.

I'm not sure why CBCS would even offer this deal if it's going to damage comic books... Not everyone will get this information and will just submit because they see 20% off but... when they get that book back that used to be a 9.8, come back as a 7.5 because of all the ink that got ripped off they will be PISSED.

Hopefully this information will help, I'd actually enjoyed speaking with the guys and if this transaction goes smoothly i will def. use CBCS moving forward.

Lastly... On Friday June 3rd when I turned the books in, I had to ask them when i'd get my books back (I shouldn't have to ask, they should just tell me when to expect: Customer Service)... they told me that I should expect my books back at the end of July. I surely hope it does take 60 days but if it does I guess I have no way of controlling.

Lots of my followers are fans of CGC as am I but I will certainly cross over if things go well. Can't wait to show my followers what I get back!

- The Comic DoJo

Here's a lovely 4-figure All-Select #4 that I just purchased on the boards within the last week.

Of course, when I hit the 'take it,' I expected that it would have waves, and it sure does (book arrived today). So, I bought it with the advance plan that I'd probably be cracking it out...so, no need to trouble the seller about it, because it meets my expectations:

In regards to Ditch's video, several of the books in it as examples of wave damage are mine. I thought you would like more info. The books came back in the first iteration with severe Newton Rings on all - 47 books. I sent them back for re-holdering, so the second iteration they came back with most having reduced Newton rings, but some were even worse, but they were all nice and flat. Four weeks later, bam, waves on almost every one of them. The worst waves are on the ones with the least Newton rings, which validates Ditch's chart showing why this case is doomed to fail. You use a lot of pressure keeps it flat but you get Newton Rings and possible staple damage, flattened spine, etc....you use a little pressure and you get waves and a potentially loose comic. When using pressure (instead of an inner well) there is no middle ground that can be achieved on EVERY comic due to varying size, thickness, paper stock, pressure load, etc.....way too many variables that require human decision making on each case. I am not wasting my time sending these for them to have a third try as there is no way they can fix a design that is fundamentally flawed from a pure physics standpoint and that requires so much human decision making on how to assemble the case. Opening the case is tedious, time consuming and high risk which is another negative. I will NEVER BUY ANY books in the new cases until the Newton rings are ELIMINATED (or at least reduced to old case levels which was pretty limited) or that could exhibit waviness, even IF PRESSED (most books you buy in the new cases are most likely pressed nowadays anyway ).

Robert Palleschi Wave effect and looks oily thank you cgc
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Carlos Rosaly So just check my only other 2 books and yup both of them are too
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