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Post by 50 Fiddy on Sept 6, 2017 18:32:10 GMT -8
It seems like this topic about pressing techniques are frown upon on other boards. Anyone have any pressing advice? Personally, I won't purchase any books that I know were pressed or from a known presser unless they're dollar books.
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Post by steveinthecity on Sept 6, 2017 19:28:17 GMT -8
It seems like this topic about pressing techniques are frown upon on other boards. Anyone have any pressing advice? Personally, I won't purchase any books that I know were pressed or from a known presser unless they're dollar books. What sort of advice are you looking for, 'how to' or possible ways to spot a pressed book? Organic Squishee could probably fill in a lot of information gaps for many of us here, myself included. I think it's an interesting topic and I've softened my resistance to pressing over the years. I'm not altogether sure why I still somewhat cling to the notion that pressing is necessarily a 'bad' thing or that it's restoration. It's more rejuvenation than restoration I think.
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Post by mrwoogieman on Sept 6, 2017 19:52:40 GMT -8
Once, I had a fantastic presser! So, so awesome! And then...and then...He quit on me!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 22:04:23 GMT -8
Once, I had a fantastic presser! So, so awesome! And then...and then...He quit on me! I'll bet he was handsome and sexy, too. Just guessing.
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Post by Stu on Sept 7, 2017 5:35:42 GMT -8
It seems like this topic about pressing techniques are frown upon on other boards. Anyone have any pressing advice? Personally, I won't purchase any books that I know were pressed or from a known presser unless they're dollar books. What sort of advice are you looking for, 'how to' or possible ways to spot a pressed book? Organic Squishee could probably fill in a lot of information gaps for many of us here, myself included. I think it's an interesting topic and I've softened my resistance to pressing over the years. I'm not altogether sure why I still somewhat cling to the notion that pressing is necessarily a 'bad' thing or that it's restoration. It's more rejuvenation than restoration I think.Flippers and speculators call it rejuvenation, real collectors call it restoration, because it is  Either way it's extracurricular manipulation. Here's my definition of restoration if it matters: Whatever you can do to the comic with your bare hands is fine. Flick off that booger, bend that corner back, fine. The second you use a machine to improve a comic's appearance, that's restoration, no matter how minor or how detectable.
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Post by steveinthecity on Sept 7, 2017 7:04:33 GMT -8
What sort of advice are you looking for, 'how to' or possible ways to spot a pressed book? Organic Squishee could probably fill in a lot of information gaps for many of us here, myself included. I think it's an interesting topic and I've softened my resistance to pressing over the years. I'm not altogether sure why I still somewhat cling to the notion that pressing is necessarily a 'bad' thing or that it's restoration. It's more rejuvenation than restoration I think.Flippers and speculators call it rejuvenation, real collectors call it restoration, because it is  Either way it's extracurricular manipulation. Here's my definition of restoration if it matters: Whatever you can do to the comic with your bare hands is fine. Flick off that booger, bend that corner back, fine. The second you use a machine to improve a comic's appearance, that's restoration, no matter how minor or how detectable. Maybe I get too hung up on the verbiage, but over time I think my personal definition of 'restoration' evolved to mean any time something was added to a book like paper, color, staples, etc. Those things to me fall under the umbrella of preservation far more so than pressing which seems a purely cosmetic enhancement(someone inform me if I'm wrong here). Trimming to me is more a destructive thing, though I get it's done to improve appearance as well. Pressing seems so commonplace at this point I feel that although I needn't exactly embrace pressing, I should accept it as part of the hobby. I don't mean to come across as wishy-washy on the subject, but I question myself that maybe my beliefs are antiquated and I need to get with the current flow of things surrounding the hobby beyond just reading and otherwise enjoying the books. When so many people from the top down apparently have no problem with pressing books I feel like I'd be advocating a pointless cause by pushing my preference on others.
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Post by mrwoogieman on Sept 7, 2017 8:35:23 GMT -8
Once, I had a fantastic presser! So, so awesome! And then...and then...He quit on me! I'll bet he was handsome and sexy, too. Just guessing. Like Adonis, but nerdier.
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Post by Jimmers Nice Guy on Sept 7, 2017 9:47:43 GMT -8
I wont buy a book if it's pressed.most of what I do buy is low grade anyhow,so... But someone I know a bit once told me they had the pleasure to press a Phantom Lady...i'd likely take that one....
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Post by 50 Fiddy on Sept 7, 2017 19:35:11 GMT -8
It seems like this topic about pressing techniques are frown upon on other boards. Anyone have any pressing advice? Personally, I won't purchase any books that I know were pressed or from a known presser unless they're dollar books. What sort of advice are you looking for, 'how to' or possible ways to spot a pressed book? Organic Squishee could probably fill in a lot of information gaps for many of us here, myself included. I think it's an interesting topic and I've softened my resistance to pressing over the years. I'm not altogether sure why I still somewhat cling to the notion that pressing is necessarily a 'bad' thing or that it's restoration. It's more rejuvenation than restoration I think. Not looking for any advice really, just that whenever anyone asks about pressing tips on the grading sites, the thread winds up getting poofed. This always seems to be a hot topic.
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Post by Jeffro on Sept 8, 2017 5:02:56 GMT -8
I believe that pressing should have been considered restoration from day one. Other than having one corner of one book spot pressed prior to buying it, I haven't pressed anything. I have thought about it though.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Sept 8, 2017 6:15:05 GMT -8
I believe that pressing should have been considered restoration from day one. It was considered restoration from day one, then CGC/Steve Borock came to town and told everybody it was perfectly acceptable and they bought it. Now there's an entire industry devoted to the pressing of books to increase the "value". I've had a few books pressed. Some were sent for grading and some were not. The books that got graded look great inside their plastic tombstones. The books that didn't get graded I was not really very happy with the results. I can open the box of comics and tell which ones were pressed without having to pull any of them out because I can see the deformation of the paper just by looking at the tops of the books. I mostly just wanted them cleaned, a couple had some spine roll I wanted fixed, a few had dents/irregularities I wanted flattened out. Most of the cleaning job was okay, but a couple of them I had to do additional cleaning when I got them back. Needless to say, I won't be using that guy again. He did a fine job on the book that just had tape on the back, but I don't know that he uses a loupe or even a flashlight to look for issues.
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Post by Jimmers Nice Guy on Sept 8, 2017 12:36:07 GMT -8
pressing was resto till they figured they couldn't detect it and figured they needed some of that sweet,sweet sugar press pie. I've pressed books in encyclopedias...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 21:26:21 GMT -8
I believe that pressing should have been considered restoration from day one. Other than having one corner of one book spot pressed prior to buying it, I haven't pressed anything. I have thought about it though. It IS restoration. I love pressing, especially high grade Silver Age books. It amazes me what's possible. I am blown away that a book that is an 8.0, for example, can become a 9.4. When I went over results with customers, I was always tickled pink when we got exceptionally good results...not because I was bragging about my skill, but because it was POSSIBLE in the first place. It's the same feeling one gets when restoring a classic car: to be able to make it look like it did when it was brand new. There's something very thrilling about that. The type of resto, however, is called market acceptable restoration. It doesn't add or take away anything, so it's not anywhere near as invasive as other forms. But, no doubt, it is restoration.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 21:26:47 GMT -8
I've pressed books in encyclopedias... Me too!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 21:27:51 GMT -8
but I don't know that he uses a loupe or even a flashlight to look for issues. If you're not using a loupe, you're not a good presser.
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