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Post by Stu on Jul 27, 2018 12:10:19 GMT -8
I didn't know his Marvel stuff was like that, I don't think I've read much he wrote for them. I just read his Image stuff like Reborn, MPH, Jupiter's Legacy/Children, Starlight, Magic Order, Kingsmen, Wanred, etc. Well, yeah, "Wanted" was one of those gratuitous inclusions of rape as a subject. Also "Kick-Ass", where a rape scene was notoriously not adapted in the movie. Never read Kick Ass.
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Jul 27, 2018 16:46:35 GMT -8
This is out on Netflix now. I'll probably watch it this weekend. Looks good. I don't have Netflix though. Can you set up a camcorder and record it on VHS for me...? No can do. Do you have an 8mm projector?
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Post by Jimmers Nice Guy on Jul 27, 2018 18:42:53 GMT -8
Dinner and clean up done,i'm going to go open a few parcel of comics(tradsies!) and check out Extinction.
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Post by Bats on Jul 27, 2018 23:36:56 GMT -8
Looks good. I don't have Netflix though. Can you set up a camcorder and record it on VHS for me...? No can do. Do you have an 8mm projector? Yes but I'll have to read the instructions... It's a bit hi-tech for me.
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Post by orius on Jul 27, 2018 23:54:57 GMT -8
Modern Mission: Impossible films (hell, modern Tom Cruise films) remind me of Jackie Chan films - they are shallow showcases of a stuntman's work. Makes for some decent action, but nothing else.
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Post by Jimmers Nice Guy on Jul 28, 2018 9:21:35 GMT -8
Looks good. I don't have Netflix though. Can you set up a camcorder and record it on VHS for me...? No can do. Do you have an 8mm projector? We do somewhere(8mm-I still watch vhs all the time,even have a betamax in storage ) and I think the old instructions still may be with it.I think it's where my 4 track recorder is. ,I have WAY too much stuff,but I have a hard time letting old analog things go.Farting around the record room yesterday I was thinking of pulling out the receiver from the wall and hooking up my eight track player for funsies. I tried to watch Extinction last night,but what a slow start.And I don't like that guys face.
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Jul 28, 2018 10:09:11 GMT -8
No can do. Do you have an 8mm projector? We do somewhere(8mm-I still watch vhs all the time,even have a betamax in storage ) and I think the old instructions still may be with it.I think it's where my 4 track recorder is. ,I have WAY too much stuff,but I have a hard time letting old analog things go.Farting around the record room yesterday I was thinking of pulling out the receiver from the wall and hooking up my eight track player for funsies. I tried to watch Extinction last night,but what a slow start.And I don't like that guys face. Man, you can make some great music with that 4 track recorder. I used to have a quadraphonic 8-track receiver.
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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on Jul 28, 2018 10:31:24 GMT -8
No can do. Do you have an 8mm projector? Yes but I'll have to read the instructions... It's a bit hi-tech for me. Low-tech is the new high-tech.
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Post by Jimmers Nice Guy on Jul 28, 2018 10:37:46 GMT -8
We do somewhere(8mm-I still watch vhs all the time,even have a betamax in storage ) and I think the old instructions still may be with it.I think it's where my 4 track recorder is. ,I have WAY too much stuff,but I have a hard time letting old analog things go.Farting around the record room yesterday I was thinking of pulling out the receiver from the wall and hooking up my eight track player for funsies. I tried to watch Extinction last night,but what a slow start.And I don't like that guys face. Man, you can make some great music with that 4 track recorder. I used to have a quadraphonic 8-track receiver. It's recorded a lot of friends bands over the years,some even released demo tapes from it. I have a beauty reel to reel Philips High Fidelity EL3522 we used to record with for that awful fuzzy garage sound I love,but the tapes are pretty scarce now days and I mostly just keep it for its beauty.And when I first got it,it had the original instructions in German,so I got this really cute girl to transcribe it for me,still have the handwritten papers.Ah,young lust.
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Jul 28, 2018 14:35:53 GMT -8
No can do. Do you have an 8mm projector? We do somewhere(8mm-I still watch vhs all the time,even have a betamax in storage ) and I think the old instructions still may be with it.I think it's where my 4 track recorder is. ,I have WAY too much stuff,but I have a hard time letting old analog things go.Farting around the record room yesterday I was thinking of pulling out the receiver from the wall and hooking up my eight track player for funsies. I tried to watch Extinction last night,but what a slow start.And I don't like that guys face.His face is fine. It's a little slow. They have a build-up where they show how his visions are affecting his family and work. The action starts at 22 minutes in. I paused it there to go grocery shopping. I have no idea why someone would have visions of an impending alien invasion force...hope they explain that. Looks good so far though.
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Post by Jimmers Nice Guy on Jul 28, 2018 22:48:32 GMT -8
Didn't say there was anything wrong with his face,just that I didn't like it.Cripes,I'm still laughing at 'his face is fine' hahaha! I'm going to try and watch it again tomorrow.I think I was overstimulated by the parcel of comics I got in last night.Rare stuff.
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Post by Ditch Fahrenheit on Jul 29, 2018 0:06:08 GMT -8
Finished watching it.
Horrible writing...as usual. Big, giant plausibility holes.
Bottom line...it sucked way more than I thought it would...I don't recommend this movie.
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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on Jul 29, 2018 8:06:34 GMT -8
Didn't say there was anything wrong with his face,just that I didn't like it.Cripes, I'm still laughing at 'his face is fine' hahaha! I'm going to try and watch it again tomorrow.I think I was overstimulated by the parcel of comics I got in last night.Rare stuff. I haven't been following this conversation, so when I read the emboldened I thought you were talking about Nicholas Cage and that scene in Ghost Rider where the News Crew Makeup lady looks at Cage (who, at this point in his life is looking like Morton Downey Jr.) and says, "He's good".
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Post by orius on Jul 31, 2018 6:42:25 GMT -8
IT (2017) Quality films are a hard find. Quality horror films even more so. But sometimes, we are so desperate to find quality where there is none or very little that we tend to overrate things. The 2017 remake of "IT" by Andrés Muschietti is one of such things.
IT is not a bad movie. It has great characters that it devoted ample amount of time developing, and in spite of its occasional suspenseful elements, it's also a decent adventure film for children, almost Spielbergian even. Even the soundtrack makes you occasionally feel like you're on an epic quest to defeat evil. It's a nice cross between "Goonies" and "A Nightmare On Elm Street" (the latter of which was even referenced in the film itself), so I think Spielberg would have been a nice choice for directing this. Little do people know, he has been known to handle darker works too (like "Jaws" and "Duel").
The story is a decent coming of age tale where a group of kids overcome their real life troubles by defeating a supernatural one, symbolically maturing as individuals. It's not a bad story, and due to its time spent on fleshing out the characters, it can be a satisfying one where you come to care about and maybe even smile along with the characters by the end.
But because such a story is so familiar, it does feel kinda run-of-the-mill by the end. Aside from a really creepy pedophilia sub-plot, there aren't really that much unpredictable or groundbreaking twists here that subvert the conventional tropes. If anything, there were even a few stupid moments here where you question the characters' actions. Sure, they're just a bunch of stupid kids, but it's still annoying to see them dumbed down just because of their age. There's even a really cringey moment where the power of true love saves one of the characters. God, I thought I was watching a Disney film. My eyes rolled so hard I wanted to gorge them outta my sockets. And that "kiss of true love" didn't even matter anyway because the generic hero gets the girl instead of the unconventional love interest who performed the kiss. What a waste of a sub-plot. Why was that kiss even there if it's not gonna affect the plot?
Anyway, aside from those stupid moments, I guess it's a pretty decent film. There's supposedly a "Chapter Two" to this, and I hope it's better than this one. Maybe the first one for this would be like "A New Hope" and the sequel could be "Empire Strikes Back". I compare this to A New Hope because they are both kinda conventional hero's journey that got overrated through the passage of time. We all know Empire Strikes Back is the superior one.
6/10
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Post by Siggy's Tar Dust® on Jul 31, 2018 8:09:41 GMT -8
There is without a doubt a chapter 2. There is SO much more coming, and part of that address the "true love" kiss and the love triangle around it.
I've read the story, and I've seen the original 'Made For Television' two-parter. When 'It' was written, the world was a different place. There are parts of the story you will NEVER see on film unless we fall into Dystopia. Bill Skarsgård is definitely creepy, and his performance is superior to Tim Curry's valiant attempt, but something is missing.
I liked it, and I think the 2nd chapter will have more freedom simply because the PC police won't be as needed as they were for the 1st chapter.
The story has just begun.
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