Post by Siggy Snickers® on Nov 9, 2016 15:32:41 GMT -8
"The Dow Jones has been in free fall since Trump started to look like the winner.
Trump will run the US economy into the toilet while increasing US debt exponentially.
Once the after effects kick in, Trump will tap into the racial anxiety among whites with his racist diatribes, disguised as patriotism (build a wall, bans Mexicans and Muslims)...and then use those tactics to roll out the equivalent of modern day fascism.
The election might have went Clintons' way, if not for Comey and Trumpland over at the FBI, making Clinton look like a crook a week before the election.....all of which was shown to be false, but only after it influenced undecided voters to vote for Trump.
If there is a road to getting Trump out of the oval office, it is by proving that Comey acted to influence he outcome of the election to favor Trump.
Forget about a wrist slap....nobody will have money to buy graded comics in a years' time.
This board and selling CGC slabs will go the way of the Dodo bird. "
This idea that so many people have, that "white supremacy" and "white racism" elected Trump...it's fantasy, it's delusion.
Listen...if you reading this think that racism is what elected Donald Trump, you must, must, must seriously re-examine your perspective, worldview, and outlook on life. It's simply not the case. It's a handy excuse, used by race-baiters...like Sharpton, Jackson, and yes, even Clinton...to both amass and maintain power, but it's a fiction. It doesn't exist.
When will we stop looking at people...for ANY reason...based on the color of their skin? When will we stop treating people...negatively OR positively...based on what they look like?
Is there racism? Of course there is. Is it the problem it was 150, 100, even 50 years ago? Not even close! Not by a landslide close! There will ALWAYS be racists and racism. As long as humanity is in control, that will ALWAYS be the case. But is America systemically racist, institutionally racist, as many of these people claim...? No, no, a thousand times, no. Otherwise, Obama couldn't have been elected, regardless of what the new "intelligentsia" believe is just Obama "denying his own white supremacist leanings."
Yes, someone actually said that. Obama is, apparently, just a token, a black politician who serves the white supremacy.
Views like that are racist to their very core, and incredibly, foundationally destructive, of individuals, of families, of communities, and entire nations.
And remember...just like there will always be racism, there will also be a certain percentage of the population that believes Elvis Presley is still alive.
People ought to be treated on the basis of their skills, talents, and abilities. No more can the excuse of "well, I was held back by "the system" (read: The Man), because I'm (insert whatever here)" be accepted, by anyone, because it's not an excuse.
I have a man who works for me right now whose mother is black and whose father is white. Does that matter? Not one damn bit. All that matters is 1. does he do his job well?
That's all that matters to me. I don't give a damn what his skin color is, what his background is, what his ethnicity is. All I care about is "does he do his job well?" And if the answer is yes, there is no limit to what he can accomplish.
Post by jsilverjanet on Nov 9, 2016 20:02:56 GMT -8
I don't know think race had anything to do with it. I'm sure a lot of people are frustrated in those areas. The bottom line is she was a deeply flawed candidate, too much baggage to overcome. While there is a small percentage of people who would never vote for a woman, I think her issues probably had a bigger impact on why they didn't vote for her. The fact that despite all her issues she still made many of those states close, where another candidate would probably have beat her easily, just shows how much of a bad candidate he was himself. The were both horrible and that will probably be the lesson learned for both parties.
I do have an issue with Trump for some of the things he said he wanted to do. However I'm going to wait and see. Many politicians have said a dozen things to get elected why should he be any different.
this idea of "make america great again" i suspect many people will be left disappointed after the first 4 years
lets just give people what they want already and divide this country up. blue states and red states.
im tired of Montana and the Dakotas not pulling their weight
That's natural. If, for example, you believe that everyone should own a copy of Barbie #37, and I think owning Barbie #37 is immoral, we're never going to agree. There's no way to unite with people you fundamentally disagree with.
And the problem is, fewer and fewer people believe in the philosophy and ideology that created this nation: individual freedom, individual responsibility, limited federal gov't with powers specifically enumerated in a contract that can only be altered at great effort. And the fewer people that believe in that, the faster the decay, and more pronounced the fracturing.
We have 5,000+ years of human history of central gov't control, power consolidated in the hands of very few. It's worked, for a time, but it's mostly resulted in suffering for the vast majority of humanity, while a small handful of people live very well.
There's no other nation on the planet that has offered as much opportunity for as many people...regardless of the obstacles...than the US. But, there are many people who believe the US is immoral, unjust, unfair, and that central gov't is the solution to all of that.
We're fast tracked to a downfall, that's for sure. America won't fall from without...it will fall from within.
Post by Organic Squishee on Nov 9, 2016 22:42:47 GMT -8
And let's be honest...do you think you can be united with someone, like Transplant, who says "Fuck you morons", spitting with naked contempt on people with whom he has a political disagreement...? You can't reason with an attitude like that. There is no reasoning with that.
And that's the kind of person who will happily vote for destruction, because he's smarter than everyone else, and, as smart as he is, he doesn't comprehend what's at stake. That's what he believes, and forget trying to convince him. He knows everything already.