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Post by vintagecomics on Aug 11, 2023 19:43:09 GMT -8
Folks, this is a REAL doozy.
Secret Wars #8.
The book looks to have been published this way. The staples DID NOT seem to be removed or replaced and the cover seems to have been affixed during printing.
What is strange about this book is that the top half of the cover and the bottom half of the cover are from different books.
The cover looks to have been TORN across the center (like a remainder copy except that the ENTIRE cover was torn across the middle, front to back.
Then the two separate halfs were TAPED together across the entire cover.
You can see the tape across the interior covers as well as the seam of the covers mating.
There is some color bleed where I assume either the glue from the tape OR moisture from the tape caused color bleed through the paper (possibly over time).
And there is definitely thicker paper across the center where these two covers overlap with each other.
Any ideas, anyone?
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Post by vintagecomics on Aug 11, 2023 20:04:29 GMT -8
Sorry, had some trouble uploading images.
Coming now.
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Post by vintagecomics on Aug 11, 2023 20:04:47 GMT -8
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Post by vintagecomics on Aug 11, 2023 20:05:16 GMT -8
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Post by vintagecomics on Aug 11, 2023 20:05:38 GMT -8
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Post by vintagecomics on Aug 11, 2023 20:05:57 GMT -8
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Post by vintagecomics on Aug 11, 2023 20:06:23 GMT -8
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Post by vintagecomics on Aug 11, 2023 20:06:36 GMT -8
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Post by vintagecomics on Aug 11, 2023 20:07:34 GMT -8
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Post by vintagecomics on Aug 11, 2023 20:07:55 GMT -8
There you go.
What think ye?
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Post by steveinthecity on Aug 11, 2023 21:08:30 GMT -8
Wouldn’t we see evidence of fading in the blues/red when comparing the bottom half to the top half? I’m operating under the assumption that the cover parts aren’t married, but original to the book. I’m also trying to wrap my head around the idea that this was a double(or more) cover and the half with damage was removed and matched to the better(nicer) half. Not sure how you’d get the art to match up, though.
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Brad Leppi
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Post by Brad Leppi on Aug 12, 2023 14:59:55 GMT -8
What confuses me is the artwork is so perfectly aligned.
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Post by vintagecomics on Aug 14, 2023 16:29:56 GMT -8
Wouldn’t we see evidence of fading in the blues/red when comparing the bottom half to the top half? I’m operating under the assumption that the cover parts aren’t married, but original to the book. I’m also trying to wrap my head around the idea that this was a double(or more) cover and the half with damage was removed and matched to the better(nicer) half. Not sure how you’d get the art to match up, though. What confuses me is the artwork is so perfectly aligned. You all now know as much as I do. And yes, I'm thoroughly confused.  I was trying to figure out HOW this was done and then of course WHY it was done. But again, I do believe this was done on the printing press because the staples look original and untouched (and I looked very carefully). I think maybe I'll fire DiceX a message and ask him. He used to work in magazine publishing and he may have an answer. |
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Post by vintagecomics on Aug 14, 2023 16:49:02 GMT -8
Already heard back from Dice.
This is what he had to say:
Huge rolls of paper are fed into the press, where it uses large cylinders to print, then feeds the long ribbon of paper to the end where it folds, trims, and stacks the books. The press doesn't stop when the roll runs out, there is an intricate mechanism that allows a fresh roll to splice onto the new roll on the fly. What you have there is the splice where one roll ran out and the next started. The pressman is supposed to toss the handful of books when there is a splice, but it looks like they missed that one.
Good news, you probably have the only existing copy of the book with a splice.
Bad news, very few people would care as its not a very attractive manufacturing defect.
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Post by steveinthecity on Aug 14, 2023 17:50:33 GMT -8
Already heard back from Dice. This is what he had to say: Huge rolls of paper are fed into the press, where it uses large cylinders to print, then feeds the long ribbon of paper to the end where it folds, trims, and stacks the books. The press doesn't stop when the roll runs out, there is an intricate mechanism that allows a fresh roll to splice onto the new roll on the fly. What you have there is the splice where one roll ran out and the next started. The pressman is supposed to toss the handful of books when there is a splice, but it looks like they missed that one.
Good news, you probably have the only existing copy of the book with a splice.Bad news, very few people would care as it’s not a very attractive manufacturing defect.I’m somehow relieved to know it came off the press like this. I’d hate to think this was a book someone “manipulated”. Related, but was wondering where the bidding would start for this? |
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